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Old 09-11-2007, 11:31 PM
piriformis piriformis is offline
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i dont like it. youd think 321busto would bet the turn with TPTK or better here. so i think those hands dont make up a huge part of his range, therefore your likely ahead a lot of the time. bluffing is only beneficial when he has exactly KJ-J10, which isnt really often enough to pot the river for almost 100bbs. i think if 321busto folded here u almost certainly had the best hand anyway.

check behind and show it down. or even better just fold the flop.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:24 AM
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id prob just shove river

looks good though
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:24 AM
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oh yah, but MUCH better to try if theres 1 spade on the flop
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: overcall flop to bluff turn/river

i don't get it
you think a TAG bets into 4 players on a dry flop,gets two callers,check calls the turn then folds the river?

with what?

specifically an overpair?

so you're not only hoping that he has an overpair but also hoping that you can make him fold it?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: overcall flop to bluff turn/river

I don't think this is that great because it doesn't seem like there are a lot of hands you can play this strong. I mean, 22/55 make sense, but aside from that I can't see what you could have. 45 seems unlikely that you peel the flop. Nothing else makes sense from there, although at the same time it doesn't make a lot of sense for you to be bluffing either.

Betting a little less than half pot on the turn then potting the river seems suspicious, though. I think this is one of those cases where something like $600-700 on the river gets a fold more often than a pot sized bet.

Overall I guess it's ok though, the more I think about it the more I like it.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:44 AM
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i don't get it
you think a TAG bets into 4 players on a dry flop,gets two callers,check calls the turn then folds the river?

with what?

specifically an overpair?

so you're not only hoping that he has an overpair but also hoping that you can make him fold it?

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when you put it that way i sound like a retard. but yes those were my thoughts lol. flop overcall was a semi-misclick. i thought i was closing action didnt see it was a 4 way pot.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:44 AM
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also: he only has $650 on river. potting it = putting him in.
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:13 AM
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jesus christ i'm so tilted by how many people are paying off with an overpair here, no one has any hand reading skills alksjefo;aiwej;alsdasdjflkasdj;lasfjhayachacahca
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