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Old 09-11-2007, 02:55 AM
VLV VLV is offline
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Default 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

Villain is 72/18/1 over 25.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $9.20
Hero (BB): $24.90
UTG: $37.60
MP: $24.60
CO: $23.65
BTN: $27.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.00</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $4.50

Flop: ($12) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $3.70</font>

Do I have to call this bet? I mean I can't imagine him doing this without an ace.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:59 AM
Spanky1974 Spanky1974 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

Folding here is really bad. SB doesn't even have a 1/2 pot size bet, and is pushing almost any hand that he called 1/2 his stack with PF.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

This only has to be some kind of really terrible 'stop and go' play or donk move with lower pair or flush draw, what 20%ish of the time? No way you fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

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This only has to be some kind of really terrible 'stop and go' play or donk move with lower pair or flush draw, what 20%ish of the time? No way you fold.

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Not even that much, considering we're about 12% even if he has the A. This is a no-brainer call.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:49 AM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

Call!!! Can you imagine the SB not "pushing" the flop given his stack? This guy desperately wants to win this pot and he is using all the leverage he has, which isn't much.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

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Villain is 72/18/1 over 25. I mean I can't imagine him doing this without an ace.

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I've given up trying to think like shorty -- they show up with anything, and use the A to bluff their last chips in some hopeless, idiotic way. Just call every time. ATCdd or any pair, or any piece of the board does this... and if you think of folding, it's actually makes it the right move on their part.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

you have kk against a shortstack, get all in whenever you can.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

You cant fold here, and also, you most likely still have the best hand
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

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Do I have to call this bet?

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Yes!!!!
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - KK with A on board, AI from short stack.

Alright just checking. I insta-called but I though he most likely has an ace, and he turned over A9o.
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