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25nl QQ what do we do here?
Villain is 25/10/2.2 after 100 hands
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) Hero (SB): $48.70 BB: $32.85 UTG: $24.95 BTN: $28.15 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players) UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $24.95 Pot Size: $8.50 |
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
I fold this. It's almost always AA/KK
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
Vilain will have AA and KK often here. Sometimes he will have AK.
Against AA or KK you have 18.9% equity on your call and against AK it's 56%. I think he will show AA and KK more often though. So let's say you have about 30% equity to your call. Pot odds give you 41% do you think he will push with a lesser hand more than 11% of the times? I would probably fold there unless he's been pushing alot like that. |
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
Call. He thinks your stealing. You will see J3s a huge number of times. Very few people push with AA preflop anyway. I would really worry about a minraise, not a push.
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
ok thx guys.
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
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Call. He thinks your stealing. You will see J3s a huge number of times. Very few people push with AA preflop anyway. I would really worry about a minraise, not a push. [/ QUOTE ] mind explaining this? Personally if i were him i would hesitate to judge BOTH raisers as trying to steal - it's just too unlikely. Going all in with J3s in a multiway reraised preflop pot is absurd in my opinion - simply not enough folding equity vs two raisers. and when people 4-bet with AA it's almost always a push... so what are you saying? |
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
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Call. He thinks your stealing. You will see J3s a huge number of times. Very few people push with AA preflop anyway. I would really worry about a minraise, not a push. [/ QUOTE ] That's a sick read you've got there. In my world, limp/RRAI=AA KK unless otherwise proven and a 100 hand sample is not enough to make that J3 read. |
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
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[ QUOTE ] Call. He thinks your stealing. You will see J3s a huge number of times. Very few people push with AA preflop anyway. I would really worry about a minraise, not a push. [/ QUOTE ] That's a sick read you've got there. In my world, limp/RRAI=AA KK unless otherwise proven and a 100 hand sample is not enough to make that J3 read. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. I really don't think you'll see this after a raise and rr, unless the guy is super aggro or something. |
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
a lot of times limp/rr is a fish with something like 99 that can't let it go but is scared to take a flop. if you had just raised, i'd be pretty optimistic. since someone raised in front of you and you 3bet, not so much.
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Re: 25nl QQ what do we do here?
I am saying villain is a fishy. If he was not, he probably would not limp/shove in a 4 handed game. Logic does not apply. He may have AA, he may have J3s. There are way more J3s in his range hence the call.
Limp/raise is a milking-trapping move by nature. If he wants to trap or milk a little more, he will raise a little. To invite loose calls and bluffs. People are very consistent in their trends when they have a big hand. Shoving does not fit here. |
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