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09-10-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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[ QUOTE ] If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically) "Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree." unknown [/ QUOTE ] This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic. To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." All possibility of human virtue falls away in the face of this commandment, and that void is the point of departure for Christianity. Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. Not sure why nobody else on here agrees with me, not even the "Christians." [/ QUOTE ] I suppose I can accept Christianity as that. Sure, bashing Bible literalists is fun, but that gets a bit too boring and we really don't go anywhere doing that . It's mostly a defensive mechanism for myself when we get a theist suddenly accusing me of non-morality. (Oh yea? Well your book says... etc) 
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09-10-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
[/ QUOTE ] To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." ... Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. [/ QUOTE ] WAIT A SECOND. When asked to describe the JEWISH bible a renowned Rabbi said: "The whole of Torah is this: what is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary." Having the same summary for these two different religions can't be kosher.
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09-10-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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Its the core principle in many, many world religions. Weird how this apparent universal human moral axiom seems independent of Jesus. [/ QUOTE ] Conveniently, they always fail to mention what Jesus said before uttering this commandment, which was to love God with all your heart,soul,and mind. Thus, one's intentions must be conformed to God's intentions before doing unto others what you would have them do unto you. Hence the disparity amongst religions.
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09-11-2007, 12:07 AM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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[ QUOTE ] Its the core principle in many, many world religions. Weird how this apparent universal human moral axiom seems independent of Jesus. [/ QUOTE ] Conveniently, they always fail to mention what Jesus said before uttering this commandment, which was to love God with all your heart,soul,and mind. Thus, one's intentions must be conformed to God's intentions before doing unto others what you would have them do unto you. Hence the disparity amongst religions. [/ QUOTE ] No one said they were identical, simply that they draw on the universal human trait of empathy as a selected trait.
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09-13-2007, 03:50 AM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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[ QUOTE ] Its the core principle in many, many world religions. Weird how this apparent universal human moral axiom seems independent of Jesus. [/ QUOTE ] Conveniently, they always fail to mention what Jesus said before uttering this commandment, which was to love God with all your heart,soul,and mind. Thus, one's intentions must be conformed to God's intentions before doing unto others what you would have them do unto you. Hence the disparity amongst religions. [/ QUOTE ] And conveniently, we are told what God's intentions are, by folks who have no way of knowing if God even exists, let alone what God thinks.
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09-10-2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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[ QUOTE ] To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." ... Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. [/ QUOTE ] WAIT A SECOND. When asked to describe the JEWISH bible a renowned Rabbi said: "The whole of Torah is this: what is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary." Having the same summary for these two different religions can't be kosher. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's the summary (or at least one of the major principles) of all major religions.
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09-11-2007, 01:07 AM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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WAIT A SECOND. When asked to describe the JEWISH bible a renowned Rabbi said: "The whole of Torah is this: what is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary." Having the same summary for these two different religions can't be kosher. [/ QUOTE ] The difference, I think, is that Christian love requires infinitely more than restraining oneself from evil. For example, as Kierkegaard said in the prayer opening Works of Love: "There are indeed only some works that human language specifically and narrowly calls works of love, but in heaven no work can be pleasing unless it is a work of love: sincere in self-renunciation, a need in love itself, and for that very reason without any claim of meritoriousness!" Sincere self-renunciation? Love as a need? Identity, complete yet separate from claim of personal merit? The true experience of such things is beyond all ostentation...and beyond all hope as a man alone from God. At any rate, I just meant to emphasize that it's completely missing the point to just think of Christianity as a set of beliefs purportedly containing the sum of all rational truth.
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09-13-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
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[/ QUOTE ] To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." ... Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. [/ QUOTE ] WAIT A SECOND. When asked to describe the JEWISH bible a renowned Rabbi said: "The whole of Torah is this: what is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary." Having the same summary for these two different religions can't be kosher. [/ QUOTE ] Umm, I far prefer the Torah from the christian view then, especially since so many people don't like themselves, view themselves as unworthy sinners, etc.... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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