Wynn - the worst game selection in town?

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The one thing locals want more than anything else is easy, close parking.

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seriously?

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There's more to it than that, but sure, that's part of the equation. When I'm just looking to occupy myself for 3 hours after a workday playing NL1/2 or 1/3, I do think about how long it'll take to get there, how far I have to walk, what sorta drink service I'll get, what the atmosphere is like, where I'm going to eat before or after... stuff like that. Since NL1/2 games are pretty much the same level of donkiness everywhere you go, where I land generally has only a little to do with game selection.

If I'm gonna aim higher than NL1/2, I do tend to think a lot more about what sorta game I want to play and other things become much more ancillary.

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I'm inclined to believe so...maybe just because it's the newest and fanciest of the strip casinos, all the locals came out of the woodwork for it.

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It's not the newest cardroom by far. It's been open since APril 2005.

To another local studded table, including one freak that the dealer knew by name and had THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS behind in cash, and another local had 10k...i knew there was no cap but good god damn 30k at a 1-3

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That would be "The Duke" and it's flash cash only. He never puts it into play and is the tightest player on earth.

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...and other people join The Duke's table and dump piles of cash on the table thinking they might get to play deep stack poker with him only to find out it ain't happenin'.

And what exactly is wrong with $30K at a NL1/3 table? Sounds like a dream to me. I'd love to find one of those talked-about $100K NL1/3 tables going at Wynn where 8 players have >$10K. I'd sit with my $500 to $1000 and be the fly on the wall waiting to pick up their scraps. The variance would be brutal, but I'm fine with that.

[davidlong14]

2-5 is better @ Wynn

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Little known secret - generally locals aren't the great card players they think they are. Yes they are tight which means you have fewer multi-way pots or deep pots, but they generally suck at reading hands - dont be afraid of locals.

Also remember a short stack is at an advantage vs a big stack like that, and generally these guys cannot play big-stack poker well.

[TxRedMan]

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Little known secret - generally locals aren't the great card players they think they are. Yes they are tight which means you have fewer multi-way pots or deep pots, but they generally suck at reading hands - dont be afraid of locals.

Also remember a short stack is at an advantage vs a big stack like that, and generally these guys cannot play big-stack poker well.

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QFT.

Outplaying a tight local nit isn't that hard. So many of them seem to be so absolutely risk averse to the point where it makes me think some of them play off of two or three buy-ins.

If their mentality is to nut peddle, counter it with an appropriate strategy that we wont talk about here.

Fwiw, there's local nits in every room, but right now they're more prevalent b/c poker in Vegas slows down after the series considerably. Go check out the Wynn during next years WSOP and you'll probably wonder how the contrast is so great. Same for Holiday weekends. Game selection FTW man. Game selection FTW.


Also, unless you're operating on a couple hundred bucks, play the 2-5. My favorite game at the Wynn would be a deep 2-5 w/ a straddle. I cant stand slow games with headsup pots, that's why I try and initiate straddles. For me, playing small blinds with huge stacks and live straddles is the best. Something to consider about an uncapped game- if half the table is 400 BB's deep the game turns decidedly post flop and involves many more decisions, as opposed to a game with a high blind/stack size ratio where there's less postflop action, and an uncapped deep game is like the polat opposite of many games you find online right now where there could be three players with <60 BB's at a six man table.


In sum, deep stacks = poker. As for your experience, pick holidays weekends, tournament time, and especially *not* weekdays after the series to play at the wynn. Labor day weekend was fantastic btw.



Also, not all, but a fair number of their dealers are w/o a doubt the best in town. And Sage and Chad run a great floor imo. I just wish that management would listen to the dealers/players/floor, b/c that room could be the best in town and knock bellagio off the map, but it would have to start with politics and end with middle limit hold'em players and games.

[SenatorKevin]

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Little known secret - generally locals aren't the great card players they think they are. Yes they are tight which means you have fewer multi-way pots or deep pots, but they generally suck at reading hands - dont be afraid of locals.

Also remember a short stack is at an advantage vs a big stack like that, and generally these guys cannot play big-stack poker well.

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Yeah, just because they are local doesn't mean they are a pro. :-) There are a few "pros" at the 5-10 game at Wynn but it felt like they were always overplaying their hands or just trying to play silly tricks.

[Cactus Jack]

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Little known secret - generally locals aren't the great card players they think they are. Yes they are tight which means you have fewer multi-way pots or deep pots, but they generally suck at reading hands - dont be afraid of locals.


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Aren't we locals?

Oh, yeah, right. I can't read hands.

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Little known secret - generally locals aren't the great card players they think they are. Yes they are tight which means you have fewer multi-way pots or deep pots, but they generally suck at reading hands - dont be afraid of locals.


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Aren't we locals?

Oh, yeah, right. I can't read hands.

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No comment (I can't believe you walked into that one!)

[KyleFall]

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I'm inclined to believe so...maybe just because it's the newest and fanciest of the strip casinos, all the locals came out of the woodwork for it.

First 1/3 NL table ALL EIGHT of the other players were locals...no offense but they were all grimy, looked like trailer trash, smoked cheap cigarettes every 10 minutes, and one even sported a mullet. They talked expertly about every hand after it was over and I finally broke and actually asked if everyone lived around here, and they all nodded.

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To another local studded table, including one freak that the dealer knew by name and had THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS behind in cash, and another local had 10k...i knew there was no cap but good god damn 30k at a 1-3...other players included a grizzled local, a few slick asian kids that knew the game, and a dealer from the Wynn playing his day off. Unbelievably bad game selection! This fish will definitely keep sailing in search of less shark infested waters. my .02

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This sounds very similar to the casino in my home town lol.