what do christians say about chinese people

[yellowbastard]

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Don't Christians think its strange that God choose not to spread his word to the entire human population?

does this suggest that Christianity is actually a man made invention and thus only exists in region it was invented?

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This is a good objection that many top christian apologists have trouble with. According to William Lane Craig God so ordered the world that only those who would hear and believe the christian gospel were born in a time and place in history were they would be able to hear it. Hence, all the Native Americans and Asians that never heard the gospel would have never believed it anyway and are now being tormented for their sins against a holy god for all eternity.

Like all other gratuitous rationalizations of religion, it is very convenient.

[jtd00123]

As I said before, using history (very selective history)to stereotype a group of people today is competely nuts. Not every Christian in the Middle ages was a blood thristy crusader, and not every Christian was this man:

http://www.ncsu.edu/midlink/dreams/francis.html

He lived during the Middle Ages, he was anti-war, and against forceful convertion of Muslims. And before you think he was an exception, he had a huge following especially after his death.

Also, has anyone looked at the list of pioneers in classical liberalism, more then half the people in the list were Christian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...cal_liberalism

What an evil bunch of c*nts!! (sarcasm)Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.

[KUJustin]

This may or may not qualify as a response to your question, but I personally know literally dozens of Christians who have been to China in the last few years in order to share God's word. You may not hear it talked about a ton because generally speaking they can't let the Chinese government find out why they're there.

The response from most of the Christians I know is to focus their energies on the solution rather than the problem, which isn't to say that the question of why the problem exists is ignored. I don't have it handy but these sorts of questions are addressed several times in several different ways by scripture.

[Brad1970]

It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:18–19; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:18–20; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).

[tpir]

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It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:18–19; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:18–20; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).

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C'mon, those are boring passages for pussy Christians. I like these better:

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."

"...he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

[Brad1970]

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It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:18–19; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:18–20; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).

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C'mon, those are boring passages for pussy Christians. I like these better:

"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."

"...he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

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Your use of adjectives to describe a whole group of people is quite distasteful. Really shows your age. Nice.

We are also talking about the whole world, not one particular city.

[tpir]

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Your use of adjectives to describe a whole group of people is quite distasteful. Really shows your age. Nice.

We are also talking about the whole world, not one particular city.

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You reading comprehension appears to be quite distasteful too. I was not describing an entire group of anyone. I want you to stop picking and choosing the nice parts of the Bible and acknowledge what your God *commands* you to do. Faith-shaking stuff here, so I 100% expect more dodges like this.

Why would an all-knowing and benevolent God create entire nations of people when he knew they would suffer and be destroyed? Amorites, Hittites, Chinese, Indians, all of 'em.

[Justin A]

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It's called the Great Commission:

It is the explicit message of our Lord Jesus Christ to those whom He has saved that they are sent forth by Him into the world even as He was sent forth of His Father into the world. After they are saved, they are divinely reckoned to be related to this world as strangers and pilgrims, ambassadors and witnesses, and that their primary purpose in life should be to make Jesus Christ known to the whole world (Matt. 28:18–19; Mark 16:15; John 17:18; Acts 1:8; 2 Cor. 5:18–20; 1 Pet. 1:17; 2:11).

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Here's another good Bible verse:

Acts 16:6
Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia.

Too bad for Asia I guess.

[tpir]

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Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.

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What are you talking about? For starters, all people do this, not just Americans, it's called bias. But, who is doing this in the thread? My reason for mentioning the crusades is that they were following the letter of the Law as outlined in the magical book you all point to.

If your God intentionally created entire nations of people that he knew would not believe in Him and get destroyed, then I don't want to follow his lead and neither should anyone else.

[jtd00123]

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Of course, this is America, and many Americans that dislike group of people use selective history to paint the entire group with the same brush as if to justify their hate. How ignorant.

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What are you talking about? For starters, all people do this, not just Americans, it's called bias. But, who is doing this in the thread? My reason for mentioning the crusades is that they were following the letter of the Law as outlined in the magical book you all point to.

If your God intentionally created entire nations of people that he knew would not believe in Him and get destroyed, then I don't want to follow his lead and neither should anyone else.

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I never implied that only Americans acted like that, hardly.

My "god" is irrelevant in conversation because I'm not even sure if one exists. Of course, it shouldn't have been relevent even if I did believe in one, but whatever. If you read the entire thread you would know that I am an agnostic. My previous posts stated simply stated that there are Christians that support what you say, and Christians that are altruistic (read previous posts for citing). If you can't see this then there is no help for you, and I won't pleasure you with another post. I am attacking the way people like you seem to paint all Christians with the same brush. You seem to cite the specific passages in Bible to prove a point? What is your point? It is in the Bible therefore all Christians believe we should murder everyone? Get real. Certain sects of Christianity believe that every passage in the Bible is should be taken literally (I can see your point if you believe all Christians think like this) while others believe that much of the Bible was written by man and favor a much looser translation. Even then, there are individuals in these sects that have thier own beliefs. In most religions you find passages that contradict each other. Some can be interpreted that war is good, some would say war is wrong, even in the Bible. This is why most religious practitioners in the 21st century have to pick and choose passages that fit their beliefs. This is why you find anti-war Christians, pro-war Christians, liberal Christians, conservative Christians, Christians that believe they should convert everyone, christians that don't etc etc.


Francis of Assisi was anti-war who did not believe in forced conversion who drew his inspiration from the Bible. Of course, he does not fit your disturbing view of Christians so I guess he isn't relevant in this conversation. I guess the Christians that influenced classical liberalism and humanism aren't relevent to you eithier. (Kant's Golden Rule "Do unto others" was taken straight from the Bible, which influenced the untilitarians view of the harm principle, a moral concept still found in secular society)


I've given plenty of examples throughout history of Christians that don't fit the examples you put them in, which also followed the passages of the bible. (please look at previous posts) But no, your attack against a relgion is to find specific passages that most of the practitioners no longer follow. Do you spend this much time discrediting Muslims and Buddhists? I highly doubt it, because judging by the harshness of your post I'm not surprised that your parents forced religion on you and this is your way of getting back at them (this is my exprerience with most atheists, after all, your arguments can be applied to all religions, yet you chose a specific one, you obviously have some specific spite towards this religion caused by who knows what)