Phil Gordon Interview W/Jerry Yang for The Poker Edge Podcast 8/7/07

[Persistence]

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I have said this to virtually everyone here and blogged about it a few times. Lee Child's laydown will go down as the worst lay down in televised poker history. Literally nothing fit for him to lay down that hand.

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I play almost exclusively limit, however it seemed to me that given the strong PF reraise and then insta-push/raise on the flop bet, that it could have been very possible for Yang to be holding AA/KK...his actions seemed to be in line with those hands (at least to me).

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doesn't justify it at all IMO. if lee is going to lay down QQ to an all-in on that flop, based most largely on the PF reraise, he shouldn't have called the reraise to begin with

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Great point, already kinda keeps the crap out of what I just typed above.

[papilindo]

[/ QUOTE ]doesn't justify it at all IMO. if lee is going to lay down QQ to an all-in on that flop, based most largely on the PF reraise, he shouldn't have called the reraise to begin with

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Good point, BUT...if Childs puts Yang on AK etc based on the PF reraise, then a flat call is okay. No A or K comes on the flop so he leads out, again okay. THEN, Yang suddenly insta pushes, and now Childs really HAS to consider the possibility that he is beat by AA/KK and so makes a laydown. If Yang had not been playing wildly, I don't think we'd be having this discussion. Because he was though, now it seems like it may have been the wrong move, but again IMHO not terribly wrong.

[SunyD]

What does everyone think about a check-raise in that situation?

I know it can be a mistake to check to the original raiser, incase he peels off a free card to beat you. However, with as much agression as Jerry was showing, I'm pretty sure he wouldve bet if checked to.

It would have been interesting to see Lee check over to super-aggressive Jerry, and then CRAI. That's if he thought his Queens were good - which he seemed to be doubting even preflop.

[beanie]

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doesn't justify it at all IMO. if lee is going to lay down QQ to an all-in on that flop, based most largely on the PF reraise, he shouldn't have called the reraise to begin with

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spot on. Fact is I only think Lee wanted to gamble when he had a set or something. Later he figured out he had been duped and called Jerry with a much more marginal KJ when he felt he needed a gamble.

Of course the guy could have had AA or KK but think about it, really, think about it.

Did he flop a set, no way he plays a set that way.

AA or KK are not options either, they are both short stacked. It was the worst lay down in televised poker history.

Kind of makes you wonder how Childs got to the final table in the first place.

To the guy that says you can play Yang for AA or KK, I could care less if he is playing wild or not. I would just have to take that beat. I actually liked the call with the QQ, that was a decent play IMO.

[Rekrul]

"I put him on a small pair or maybe AQ or AK so I felt like going allin with my jacks to represent pocket aces so that I could make him fold"

Nice poker logic, champ.

Also cute how when he recounts the preflop action of his JJ vs QQ hand he got the fact that he re-raised childs preflop and not vice versa mixed up is pretty laughable.

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doesn't justify it at all IMO. if lee is going to lay down QQ to an all-in on that flop, based most largely on the PF reraise, he shouldn't have called the reraise to begin with

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spot on. Fact is I only think Lee wanted to gamble when he had a set or something. Later he figured out he had been duped and called Jerry with a much more marginal KJ when he felt he needed a gamble.

Of course the guy could have had AA or KK but think about it, really, think about it.

Did he flop a set, no way he plays a set that way.

AA or KK are not options either, they are both short stacked. It was the worst lay down in televised poker history.

Kind of makes you wonder how Childs got to the final table in the first place.

To the guy that says you can play Yang for AA or KK, I could care less if he is playing wild or not. I would just have to take that beat. I actually liked the call with the QQ, that was a decent play IMO.

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Guess you can only go with one read on a hand. Once you make up your mind, got to go with it.

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During the interview Phil asked Jerry about the huge hand that occured less than 10 hands in to the FT that involved Jerry and Lee Childs. For those that aren't familiar this is how things went down...


Lee Childs raised to 720K under the gun and Jerry Yang, next to act, popped it to 2.0M. It folded back around to Childs, who made the call. On the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop, Childs led out with a 3.0M bet and Jerry Yang immediately announced that he was all-in, causing Childs to look consternated. After several minutes in the tank, Childs announced that he was folding, as he showed pocket queens.

The hand recap is courtesy of the pokerpages.com live update blog coverage.

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Phil asked Jerry what he had and Jerry first replied back with the question of "what do you think I had?" Phil answered back that he thought Jerry had the Ace high flush draw. Jerry then answered the original question and said that he had pocket Jacks.

Here is the link to the podcast if anyone wants to listen to the whole interview.

The Poker Edge on ESPNRadio.com

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I hope you are right cause I bet a friend of mine pretty large that he had 1010 or JJ. My friend has all other hands. I honestly think Jerry thought he had the best hand. I agree: worst laydown ever based on the fact that Jerry had already raised like 5 times out of the first 10 hands. Can't wait to see it!

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During the interview Phil asked Jerry about the huge hand that occured less than 10 hands in to the FT that involved Jerry and Lee Childs. For those that aren't familiar this is how things went down...


Lee Childs raised to 720K under the gun and Jerry Yang, next to act, popped it to 2.0M. It folded back around to Childs, who made the call. On the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop, Childs led out with a 3.0M bet and Jerry Yang immediately announced that he was all-in, causing Childs to look consternated. After several minutes in the tank, Childs announced that he was folding, as he showed pocket queens.

The hand recap is courtesy of the pokerpages.com live update blog coverage.

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Phil asked Jerry what he had and Jerry first replied back with the question of "what do you think I had?" Phil answered back that he thought Jerry had the Ace high flush draw. Jerry then answered the original question and said that he had pocket Jacks.

Here is the link to the podcast if anyone wants to listen to the whole interview.

The Poker Edge on ESPNRadio.com

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I hope you are right cause I bet a friend of mine pretty large that he had 1010 or JJ. My friend has all other hands. I honestly think Jerry thought he had the best hand. I agree: worst laydown ever based on the fact that Jerry had already raised like 5 times out of the first 10 hands. Can't wait to see it!

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That seems like a good be for your friend IMO, though it appears you won.

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During the interview Phil asked Jerry about the huge hand that occured less than 10 hands in to the FT that involved Jerry and Lee Childs. For those that aren't familiar this is how things went down...


Lee Childs raised to 720K under the gun and Jerry Yang, next to act, popped it to 2.0M. It folded back around to Childs, who made the call. On the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop, Childs led out with a 3.0M bet and Jerry Yang immediately announced that he was all-in, causing Childs to look consternated. After several minutes in the tank, Childs announced that he was folding, as he showed pocket queens.

The hand recap is courtesy of the pokerpages.com live update blog coverage.

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Phil asked Jerry what he had and Jerry first replied back with the question of "what do you think I had?" Phil answered back that he thought Jerry had the Ace high flush draw. Jerry then answered the original question and said that he had pocket Jacks.

Here is the link to the podcast if anyone wants to listen to the whole interview.

The Poker Edge on ESPNRadio.com

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I hope you are right cause I bet a friend of mine pretty large that he had 1010 or JJ. My friend has all other hands. I honestly think Jerry thought he had the best hand. I agree: worst laydown ever based on the fact that Jerry had already raised like 5 times out of the first 10 hands. Can't wait to see it!

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I guess he'll probably want to wait until it is televised before he pays out on his bet but you should feel pretty good about your bet now. It would be pretty silly for Jerry to lie about what he had after the fact when everyone is going to find out eventually during the telecast anyway. I was with you as far as the hands I put him on when I first read the hand on a live update during the FT. I put him on 10s or Js along with the AK of clubs. I'm still not sure how childs folded that given that Yang had raised half the hands and was all-in a previous time I believe.

[flavio321]

yang would have hit a set on the river. so good laydown.