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Old 08-05-2007, 10:20 PM
frommagio frommagio is offline
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I'm going to be driving through Niagara Falls in a couple of days and I'm debating stopping at Casino Niagara or Fallsview to play 1/2 NL. I don't need to kill time but I'm also not in a hurry so time isn't a factor. I'm really just interested if people think its worth it.

I've been playing 1/2NL in AC lately where the max bux-in is $300. I've been really liking it and I'm especially liking the challenge of deep-stacked poker. I'm not a huge fan of short-stack poker. Its just more boring due to not being able to play as many speculative hands. What are people's thoughts on the 100 max buy-in 1/2 games?

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This is what I do: Get there early/mid afternoon, and work against the other $100 stacks to grow your stack. With reasonable luck, you'll be nicely stacked for the evening, and you can punish the new small stacks. You'll also have a few deep stack competitors to contend with. It can be interesting and fun.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:01 AM
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This is what I do: Get there early/mid afternoon, and work against the other $100 stacks to grow your stack. With reasonable luck, you'll be nicely stacked for the evening, and you can punish the new small stacks.

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This should be good. Please explain how to "punish" a $100 stack with a $300 stack.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:19 AM
Johan Ramstedt Johan Ramstedt is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL with 100 max buy in.

The big stack can totally run over the short stacks! Haven't you read the books and, like, watched poker on TV?
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:53 AM
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Yeah, this is preposterous. This isn't a tournament where the small stacks feel pressure from escalating blinds. Going into -EV situations just to build a stack to 'punish' smaller stacks is beyond stupid.

The $100 stack doesn't care whether you have a $100 stack or a $1000 stack. That's what makes short stack play so potentially profitable (you play perfect short stacked poker, while the big stacks can't adequately adjust to you because they also have to play against the other big stacks).
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:43 PM
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Yeah, this is preposterous. This isn't a tournament where the small stacks feel pressure from escalating blinds. Going into -EV situations just to build a stack to 'punish' smaller stacks is beyond stupid.

The $100 stack doesn't care whether you have a $100 stack or a $1000 stack.

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The "opposite" strategy could feasibly make sense though. You sit down at the table with $100, noticing that the drunk, bad players have been playing for awhile and amassed $1000 stacks. You might take some risk (possibly small -EV situations) to build your stack so you can play bigger stack poker against the bad players. This concept is proposed by Largay, in certain situations. (It led to the controversial and misunderstood play he made with 82s, or whatever it was.)
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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Understand the mindset of your opponents also. Many of the bad players I play against in L.A. think they are getting bullied by bigger stacks, for whatever reason, and will fold more often to bigger stacks(or call more, just know which type of player it is). I've literally heard on multiple occasions that a big stack is "bullying us with his huge stack" or "using his stack to punish us" or some other wrong strategic concept. Obviously this comes from watching tournament poker on t.v. and misapplying the concepts in a cash game.

Are they wrong for thinking this way? Of course. But can you profit off of their terrible thinking? Yes.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:53 PM
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Understand the mindset of your opponents also. Many of the bad players I play against in L.A. think they are getting bullied by bigger stacks, for whatever reason, and will fold more often to bigger stacks(or call more, just know which type of player it is). I've literally heard on multiple occasions that a big stack is "bullying us with his huge stack" or "using his stack to punish us" or some other wrong strategic concept. Obviously this comes from watching tournament poker on t.v. and misapplying the concepts in a cash game.

Are they wrong for thinking this way? Of course. But can you profit off of their terrible thinking? Yes.

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Point conceded, I learned something new. If I see frommagio at the tables, I might actually be able to bully him with my big stack, lol
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:30 PM
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This is what I do: Get there early/mid afternoon, and work against the other $100 stacks to grow your stack. With reasonable luck, you'll be nicely stacked for the evening, and you can punish the new small stacks.

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This should be good. Please explain how to "punish" a $100 stack with a $300 stack.

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At first I thought this was just a really stupid comment, but now I realize that you might in fact be an actual idiot nonsavant.

So I'll concede your point, and reverse my opinion. My new strategy is to buy in for $100, and toss away $50 quickly to acquire the advantage of being a smaller stack. Then I'll punish those $100 stacks, and run from the $25s.

I'm here to learn; thanks for the help!
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:51 PM
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This is what I do: Get there early/mid afternoon, and work against the other $100 stacks to grow your stack. With reasonable luck, you'll be nicely stacked for the evening, and you can punish the new small stacks.

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This should be good. Please explain how to "punish" a $100 stack with a $300 stack.

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At first I thought this was just a really stupid comment, but now I realize that you might in fact be an actual idiot nonsavant.

So I'll concede your point, and reverse my opinion. My new strategy is to buy in for $100, and toss away $50 quickly to acquire the advantage of being a smaller stack. Then I'll punish those $100 stacks, and run from the $25s.

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Good lord you're ignorant. I said "this should be good", and you didn't disappoint.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:49 AM
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This is what I do: Get there early/mid afternoon, and work against the other $100 stacks to grow your stack. With reasonable luck, you'll be nicely stacked for the evening, and you can punish the new small stacks.

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This should be good. Please explain how to "punish" a $100 stack with a $300 stack.

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At first I thought this was just a really stupid comment, but now I realize that you might in fact be an actual idiot nonsavant.

So I'll concede your point, and reverse my opinion. My new strategy is to buy in for $100, and toss away $50 quickly to acquire the advantage of being a smaller stack. Then I'll punish those $100 stacks, and run from the $25s.

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Good lord you're ignorant. I said "this should be good", and you didn't disappoint.

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Did you get all 800 of your posts with one-liner insults?
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