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100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
Villain runs 57/10/1.25/650 (though he's somehow up $600). He INSTANTLY called the 3bet...since there was zero consideration to raising or folding, I think I can pretty much rule out QQ+.
Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 10 Players Hero (SB): $121.95 UTG: $140.75 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $3.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, 1 fold, UTG calls $14.50, 2 folds Flop: ($44) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $26.00</font>, UTG takes maybe two seconds to call $26.00 Is it pointless to bet this flop? If I hit an A or a K on the turn, what's my play? EDIT: Condensed PF folds. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
you need to know how often he folds to a cbet then you will know if you should bet after missing against this opponent
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
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you need to know how often he folds to a cbet then you will know if you should bet after missing against this opponent [/ QUOTE ] 1. The sample size is too small to make a reasonable, accurate judgment. 2. Most of those examples will be from raised pots...this is a 3bet pot where I raised an UTG raiser and two callers. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
i disagree after 650 hands, you could get an idea, especially if its really high or low
do you know how often he calls PFR? I use this and it gives a fairly accurate picture, obviously 3bet will be smaller but still. when in doubt I cbet |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
C-betting against loose morons on middle-card flops is a leak.
When you 3-bet him with AK, your goal should be to bet/bet/bet when you flop a pair. C-betting into him here is playing right into his hands. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
so the only time we make $$ is when he calls with a weaker A or K and we both hit? doesn't that play right into his hands if he's calling with things like TT, 99 or even aq if we both miss?
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
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so the only time we make $$ is when he calls with a weaker A or K and we both hit? [/ QUOTE ] Or when the flop comes K-4-2, but he doesn't believe you and calls you down with TT. C-betting this flop against a loose player is awful IMO. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
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C-betting this flop against a loose player is awful IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, this is what I was looking for. Awhile back, I posted a similar hand (the villain wasn't as loose, but the situation was similar) where I c/f the flop, and I got flamed. As soon as I bet, I wanted to take it back. There's really not much he folds on that board. As played, what do I do if I turn an ace or a king? Against this guy, I don't know if I actually want to hit anything. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
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[ QUOTE ] C-betting this flop against a loose player is awful IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, this is what I was looking for. Awhile back, I posted a similar hand (the villain wasn't as loose, but the situation was similar) where I c/f the flop, and I got flamed. As soon as I bet, I wanted to take it back. There's really not much he folds on that board. As played, what do I do if I turn an ace or a king? Against this guy, I don't know if I actually want to hit anything. [/ QUOTE ] I'd felt a K and don't know what I'd do with an A, but I'm probably not getting away from it. I'm checking every turn though and crai on a K (and prob. A) turn. |
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Re: 100NL: 3Bet AK Whiffs
Personally, I think 3 betting AK out of position against a 57/10 who is luckboxing the table is your biggest mistake. Just call his raise, c/r if you hit an a or k and try to stack a donk with tptk or better.
This guy is calling all the way down with any pair just cause he is running very hot. |
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