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Old 07-19-2007, 10:18 PM
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Cliff notes? I also knew something wrong happened, but don't know any real details. How unbiased are these videos?
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:28 PM
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Cliff notes? I also knew something wrong happened, but don't know any real details. How unbiased are these videos?

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Group has a compound in Waco, TX. Feds move in to serve warrents and raid (on pretty shaky grounds if I remember correctly) and a clusterf*ck insues. Chain of command is totally FUBAR and the soldiers there act inappropriatly (big suprise I know).

In the end, David Koresh (group's messiah/leader) and his group were doing plenty of illegal things, but the whole mess was a black eye for the ATF and Justice department because it was handled so poorly.

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Old 07-20-2007, 07:32 AM
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In the end, David Koresh (group's messiah/leader) and his group were doing plenty of illegal things

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name them please.

also to others it is not disputed that army special forces were there at waco, I guess that could be considered a military presence.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:21 AM
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In the end, David Koresh (group's messiah/leader) and his group were doing plenty of illegal things

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name them please.

also to others it is not disputed that army special forces were there at waco, I guess that could be considered a military presence.

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I don't even give a crap if they WERE doing illegal things, with all the laws in this country it is almost impossible to not do illegal things. I mean you really have to go out of your way to study lots of rules and regulations, as well as make a concerted effort in order to avoid doing illegal things. What a wonderful country.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:03 AM
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I don't even give a crap if they WERE doing illegal things, with all the laws in this country it is almost impossible to not do illegal things. I mean you really have to go out of your way to study lots of rules and regulations, as well as make a concerted effort in order to avoid doing illegal things. What a wonderful country.

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true of course i'm with you 100%, but my point is similiar to the randy weaver story, most people I would assume would believe that he is in jail for his "crimes" when in fact he is a free man who recieved an out of court settlement (millions) for the death of his family.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you let such statements go by without objection (they were engaged in various illegal activities), then people think they are true and people think it is the general consensus that it's true. To the best of my knowledge the waco people were not engaged in any illegal activities, before the actual raid occurred.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:09 AM
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I don't even give a crap if they WERE doing illegal things

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Yeah, nothing at all wrong with taking sexual liberties with a twelve-year-old. The nerve of those busybodies at CPS. . . .
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:14 AM
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Yeah, nothing at all wrong with taking sexual liberties with a twelve-year-old. The nerve of those busybodies at CPS. . . .

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So the answer is to murder the children!?@#!?@
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:18 AM
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So the answer is to murder the children!?@#!?@

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Granted, that was not the outcome we were looking for.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:38 AM
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Yeah, nothing at all wrong with taking sexual liberties with a twelve-year-old. The nerve of those busybodies at CPS. . . .

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unfounded allegations as far as I am aware.

as far as cps, take a look at this website

http://www.massoutrage.com/
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:08 PM
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as far as cps, take a look at this website

http://www.massoutrage.com/

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Oh, how cute, a Bircher. I can't imagine why a family lawyer who is a member of the John Birch Society would have an axe to grind about DSS. . . .
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