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Re: find a fold?
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[ QUOTE ] Preflop is standard. Turn is definitely a call guys. Flop is closer than turn but still a call. River is harsh, but 3-way I think I fold. [/ QUOTE ] If you're going to fold the river 3-way after spiking one of your outs, why are you calling the turn? Raise the turn to force BB to call two? Otherwise, call turn, fold river when we hit a pair seems weird...are you only drawing the A + gutter? I still like a turn fold. [/ QUOTE ] Jacks were never anything more than a partial out. |
#12
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Re: find a fold?
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fold preflop, fold flop [/ QUOTE ] wow I feel stupid, I didn't see this was 4-handed and not 6-handed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd fold the turn |
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Re: find a fold?
im with S_T on this hand every street
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Re: find a fold?
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Preflop is standard. Turn is definitely a call guys. Flop is closer than turn but still a call. River is harsh, but 3-way I think I fold. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: find a fold?
I think everything but preflop is debateable. I think a lot of times your flop call is incorrect, but w/o a read on the opponents I would peel here as well.
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Re: find a fold?
I think turn is close, but a fold because we are not closing the action.
Edit, I change my mind and believe that we have enough outs on avg to call with these pot odds. River does seem like a tuff, but good fold. |
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Re: find a fold?
I think the Turn is an easy call and the Flop is often a fold for me. Im not sure if we cant donk that River.
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#18
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Re: find a fold?
you played it ok for the most part, but the river is a muck. i think i call the turn in practice but generally we can discount our 7 outs to 5 or so, and theres a chance BB has a set and is gonna pound us on the turn, so with that in mind it's possible it's a fold there.
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Re: find a fold?
everything up to river is pretty standard.
On the river: c/f > b/f > c/c |
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Re: find a fold?
Personally, I need AQ or better to raise this PF. If villain is typical decent player, his range UTG 4 handed is A9 up, so AJ is not good enough for a raise IMO. I would then fold to one bet on the flop with no pair no draw, especially with BB to act behind me.
However, I think it is close to a raise PF, and if so, you might as well lead out on this flop, mainly for defense. When that backfires, you are probably priced into a call, which just goes to show why it was better to just call PF... As played, I think crying calls on turn and river are probably correct (very borderline especially on river), but I hate the situation. LESS aggression PF is the lesson here IMO. |
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