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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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CO is your real worry here, as I think MP1's range consists of mostly overpairs [/ QUOTE ] MP could very well have a set himself. Notice he is ALSO a cold-caller, not the PFR. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
Like I said earlier, i thought it was going to be 3 handed, and OOP 3 handed with a SC I don't really like much, I may call like 25-30% of the time, but i don't think it is standard with only 3 to the flop. Had the bet been 3x with 3 to the flop I am ok, but with 4x I need 4 to the flop.
Closing action is always good. It is probably pretty close to 22, but I think I like 22 better. With a SC I usually need more players. but I will take 22 HU against the right players. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
Playing for the c/r is fine here, but given the action I think its a fold. OOP with top 2 against this aggression is kinda a bad spot, unless you have reads that CO would slowplay a set. As for preflop, seems pretty standard to me, 4.5:1 odds.
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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MP could very well have a set himself. Notice he is ALSO a cold-caller, not the PFR. [/ QUOTE ]Well right, but we have more info on CO. MPs range is certainly wider than CO based on the info we have at the moment. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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OOP with top 2 against this aggression is kinda a bad spot [/ QUOTE ]Our position doesn't matter at this point, since we'll be all in if we continue. The only question is if we want to based on the information we have. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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Also, 22 is itself a significant part of CO's range here. [/ QUOTE ]Well right, but only because we have a 5 and a 6, which makes 55 and 66 less likely for CO. If we had 22, those hands would now become more likely. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
I called preflop for several reasons:
1) Raiser probably was strong: Raiser was UTG and in my limited sample size had only raised 2% of the time 2) Pot odds: It's 3 to call and there is just over 12--so getting just over 4 to 1 odds 3) Implied odds (3 dollars to win a lot more than 12--maybe even a stack if I can get lucky) 4) Good Relative position after the flop. For the flop, I checked it with the intention of check-raising--and I guess here the only option due to the size of the pot is to check-raise all-in. A check raise to 70 would give the CO great odds. So I guess it's all-in or fold. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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equity/ win/ tie/ pots won/ pots tied Hand 0: 54.411% 53.86% 00.55% 449394 4596.67 { 6h5h } Hand 1: 22.794% 21.96% 00.83% 183254 6936.67 { TT+, 66-55, AsKs } Hand 2: 22.794% 21.96% 00.83% 183254 6936.67 { TT+, 66-55, AsKs } [/ QUOTE ] Given all the action in front of you. Protect your hand: Push All-In. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
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[ QUOTE ] equity/ win/ tie/ pots won/ pots tied Hand 0: 54.411% 53.86% 00.55% 449394 4596.67 { 6h5h } Hand 1: 22.794% 21.96% 00.83% 183254 6936.67 { TT+, 66-55, AsKs } Hand 2: 22.794% 21.96% 00.83% 183254 6936.67 { TT+, 66-55, AsKs } [/ QUOTE ] Given all the action in front of you. Protect your hand: Push All-In. [/ QUOTE ]You forgot 22, which is definitely in the ranges of both players. Also, MP has 66-99 in his range, though he won't be calling with them, and I'd be shocked if either player had KK+. |
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Re: Flopped two pair on flushy flop and LOT of action...It\'s to you...
I have seen people do all that with everybody having combos/overpairs, but I do think it's rare and one of the cold-callers is likely to have a set.
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