50NL - I NEVER FOLD - Page 4

Daniel LeClaire · #1 05-24-2007, 04:19 PM

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I'm starting to think 3 bet these pre flop agaist a loose button opener might be better. Obv we don't have set value to call and it hard to play them unimproved oop.

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This type of player is rarely folding to a 3 bet. Then you are playing a big pot OOP with a pair of 6s.

Abramovic · #2 05-24-2007, 04:20 PM

muddydog I prefer c/f to donk bet.

Kr4Bzzz · #3 05-24-2007, 04:20 PM

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Obv we don't have set value to call

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WTH

AFennewald · #4 05-24-2007, 04:28 PM

looked at his stats we may have set value on this guy. we don't have set value if he is pos aware and raising more on the button because he won't stack off enough.

Daniel LeClaire · #5 05-24-2007, 04:14 PM

I take this line occasionally. I think you picked the perfect spot for it. Button vs Blinds. It's riskier when the raise is coming from EP. The river bet is either a huge hand or air. Sometimes you will run into a K.

This is the dilemma when playing OOP. Do you C/R flop and get them to fold the times they have missed overs or do you call down never knowing where you are?

If it's an aggressive player sometimes you just have to call down and if they suck out then so be it. I think folding the turn is weak because I've noticed that when guys raise they almost always fire at least 2 barrels and sometimes 3. I rarely see guys give up on the turn.

Antinome · #6 05-24-2007, 05:40 PM

grunch-

I would call, check-call flop, lead turn.

The turn lead makes sure diamond draws are paying to see the river. It also looks a lot like the sort of slowplay line people like to take with an 8, because it reps the hand you have- a pair that beats a cbet or a draw.

Abramovic · #7 05-24-2007, 05:44 PM

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grunch-

I would call, check-call flop, lead turn.

The turn lead makes sure diamond draws are paying to see the river. It also looks a lot like the sort of slowplay line people like to take with an 8, because it reps the hand you have- a pair that beats a cbet or a draw.

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And if he calls turn lead? River is c/f?

Daniel LeClaire · #8 05-24-2007, 05:47 PM

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I would call, check-call flop, lead turn.

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What's the advantage of c/c flop & lead turn compared to c/r flop? They both cost you roughly the same amount. You still only fold out missed overs on the turn, only now you have given a free card. You are still getting raised by better too.