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Old 05-24-2007, 03:52 PM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

doesn't playing a small pp this way have RIO written all over it. Why call the river?
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

I explained why I called river above. I think turn fold is generally standard, but after calling turn I think I have to call river for reasons stated above.

What do you guys put him on on the river? I want hand ranges other than just these statements.

Also, betting river is not nearly as good as c/c.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:03 PM
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Yeah your right most players at this stake would se the K and think that is a good three barrle bluff card so bluffs are certially possible. He is probebly not thinking on the level to relise that it is not likely for you to hav a K and that you would have likely raised a better hand than 99-QQ by now. I guess I'm just not in love with ch calling small pairs on the flop but I'm not sure if ther is a better way to play it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:03 PM
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I donk bet the flop here. Then give up.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

this works well against players who don't raise donk bets like its there job. I don't know if this guy is one of those players. If he is not prone to multistreet bluffs I like a ck call flop. If he is however this is kinda a RIO situation.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

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I donk bet the flop here. Then give up.

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I much prefer c/r to donk bet on flop here and it's not even close.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:15 PM
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I donk bet the flop here. Then give up.

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I much prefer c/r to donk bet on flop here and it's not even close.

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Why? To me it just seems like you are risking a lot more to find out where you're at. Maybe I'm missing something here. If he's just got a couple overs do you think he calls here? Or raises every time and pushes you out? I just don't find that to be the case and I lead at flops OOP HU a lot, with and without hands where it looks like people have missed so maybe I just have a different style. Or maybe it's dumb tell me why.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

c/r looks stronger and you pick off c bet.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:20 PM
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c/r looks stronger and you pick off c bet.

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Or you end up raising big with a hand that leaves you OOP with a chunk of your stack in the middle if he calls now turn comes whatever now what? I still don't get how it's any better, it's just more pressure for higher risk /reward.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - I NEVER FOLD

I'm starting to think 3 bet these pre flop agaist a loose button opener might be better. Obv we don't have set value to call and it hard to play them unimproved oop.
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