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Old 04-10-2007, 10:34 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Your hypothetical begins with a given population that wants to get rid of government. They will have the will to say "no" to the biggest collection of coercive force ever assembled. This is your starting assumption.

Now, they're just going to roll over for some neighborhood gang? Any force assembled that is powerful enough to conquer these people would be more than enough to conquer the state that was in place before.

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Again, the world is continuous. It is in flux. It's not like it just hops from state to state. You haven't even described what sort of revolution/overthrow of government, and yet you seem to imply that it automatically prevents anyone else, in any region anywhere, from coercing people. Absurd, IMO.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:40 PM
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If we posted our detailed plans for overthrowing the gubmint on the intarwebs we'd be on the nightly news tomorrow with pictures of our "compound" and our neighbors saying, "They always seemed like such quiet people."
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:13 PM
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Your hypothetical begins with a given population that wants to get rid of government. They will have the will to say "no" to the biggest collection of coercive force ever assembled. This is your starting assumption.

Now, they're just going to roll over for some neighborhood gang? Any force assembled that is powerful enough to conquer these people would be more than enough to conquer the state that was in place before.

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Again, the world is continuous. It is in flux. It's not like it just hops from state to state. You haven't even described what sort of revolution/overthrow of government, and yet you seem to imply that it automatically prevents anyone else, in any region anywhere, from coercing people. Absurd, IMO.

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Yes, that is absurd. Did you read the rest of the post? Oh, right.

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basically I'm lazy.

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The only way you're going to conquer such a group of people is by assembling *at least* as much force (and almost certainly *considerably more*) as would be necessary to conquer any state that included those people before. There is no magical absolute protection from coercion. The Death Star blows up an AC Earth just as easily as a statist Earth.
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