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Old 04-04-2007, 07:42 PM
tgo007 tgo007 is offline
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Default Re: buying in short, middle, full

I think it depends. If you aren't a very good player then buying in short is the best option. Buying in 50bb plays similar to 20bb in my opinion (still tight) except you need to play a lot more careful post flop which if done correctly is better than 20BB short stacking but of course you have to deal with more difficult decisions. If you are an excellent player and you are able to adjust to the different stack sizes and can play post flop then buying full is the best. I honestly believe very few players can play full stack. Many people will try it and they might still win, but they would be even better off buying in for 50bb.
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:50 PM
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It seems that the only way to play a big pot full ring to your advantage is only hold the nut hands like AKs for flush and 88 for sets or hands like 98 and 65s to make straights against people's AA or KK.

It's like I want more money in the table when i hold any pocket pair but less when i hold AK when flop an ace or king. I also heard of nits that keeps pots small with AA kk and Aq and even folds it when they get raised on flops with something like A 8 4. If i play that NITTY, can i be profitable?
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:55 AM
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Gotta wonder why we constantly see Barry "lol Donkaments" Greenstein buying in for the minimum on HSP and Live at the Bike...Maybe just because he's not playing his real game? Although, he did recommend that during the commentary.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:34 AM
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Gotta wonder why we constantly see Barry "lol Donkaments" Greenstein buying in for the minimum on HSP...

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What's the minimum? 300/600 blinds -- he buys in for $100k, right? That's 167 BB. Seems like a full buy-in to me. It's the short-stack at the table, though, since some people buy in for $1M. But still plenty in relation to the blinds, right?
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:06 PM
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Yeah, actually, I was thinking just of season 2, but I'm not 100% he did buy short in season 2, I think he did, but he could have just lost a big pot...I'm not sure. But on Live at the bike he buys in for the minimum, and advocates doing that at tables.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:30 PM
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But on Live at the bike he buys in for the minimum, and advocates doing that at tables.

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Wow. I don't get that.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:22 PM
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No tough decisions I guess...
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: buying in short, middle, full

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Gotta wonder why we constantly see Barry "lol Donkaments" Greenstein buying in for the minimum on HSP and Live at the Bike...Maybe just because he's not playing his real game? Although, he did recommend that during the commentary.

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In Barry's book, he comments on the fact that he likes to buy in short. I sent him an email asking him some questions on it. He more or less said that he likes short play because it makes the decisions easier. Also, he said that being a good player, he can figure out what everyone else is doing before they figure out what he is doing. He still has enough ammo to put people to a decision, but limits his losses on the suck outs.
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: buying in short, middle, full

at my home game i buy in short a lot..because the donks will bad beat me enough i dont want it to be for a big stack...and i usually triple it in a matter of a few orbits so doesnt matter...its a donk fest...like stocks...buy in low..cash out high
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