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#11
03-21-2007, 12:57 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
i liek the flop check a lot, people can check raise you with a flush draw and put you in a tough spot, as you played it i think you have to call the river since theres a decent chance hes on a draw, also u can profitablly raise the turn with the safe card
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#12
03-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
Ok let's say I called the river as my hand is now really underrepresented.
For all the people advocating a flop bet. Why do you want to do this? Is this for value or as a bluff? Does betting the flop with a one pair hand on a monotone board with no draw not bloat the pot and leave us in for trickier decisions on later streets?
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#13
03-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
i think jacsons right. certainly could bet flop, but i dont mind the check. as everyone said, with the way it played out i cant see folding the river. id put him most likely on a K, and hes probably hoping youve got a PP or maybe flush draw with pair so i think hes likely value betting top pair here.
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#15
03-21-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
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[ QUOTE ] ...a monotone board with no draw... [/ QUOTE ] What? [/ QUOTE ] The board is monotone and we have no draw. Sorry bad English on my behalf.
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#16
03-21-2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
We don't need a draw, we have an overpair!
You are afraid of tricky situations, I think this is pretty un-tricky. Bet to charge any loose diamonds out there. If another diamond falls, we can safely fold to any strong moves, it's very simple really. Sure, there may be a slightly larger than normal chance you are behind on the flop, but we can't give up on it before we have even put in a bet.
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#17
03-21-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
the flop check doesnt mean your giving up on the hand but with position you can see a card and play cautiously, this is maybe a flop bet against passive players at low stakes but at medium stakes where people can check raise bluff its more important to control the potsize i think while diguising your hand and usuing position to your advantage on later streets
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#18
03-21-2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
[ QUOTE ]
the flop check doesnt mean your giving up on the hand but with position you can see a card and play cautiously, this is maybe a flop bet against passive players at low stakes but at medium stakes where people can check raise bluff its more important to control the potsize i think while diguising your hand and usuing position to your advantage on later streets [/ QUOTE ] Are you really controlling the pot size here, or are you letting the other guys choose the pot size, after you've given them free cards on an extremely draw heavy board? Also, small stakes? Wtf are you talking about? Don't answer that.
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#19
03-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] the flop check doesnt mean your giving up on the hand but with position you can see a card and play cautiously, this is maybe a flop bet against passive players at low stakes but at medium stakes where people can check raise bluff its more important to control the potsize i think while diguising your hand and usuing position to your advantage on later streets [/ QUOTE ] Are you really controlling the pot size here, or are you letting the other guys choose the pot size, after you've given them free cards on an extremely draw heavy board? [/ QUOTE ] No by checking the flop we've decided not to bloat the pot size. If we're called or raised we're in for a world of pain on later streets. What would you do if we get called and he checks a blank turn/cr a blank turn?
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#20
03-21-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the flop check doesnt mean your giving up on the hand but with position you can see a card and play cautiously, this is maybe a flop bet against passive players at low stakes but at medium stakes where people can check raise bluff its more important to control the potsize i think while diguising your hand and usuing position to your advantage on later streets [/ QUOTE ] Are you really controlling the pot size here, or are you letting the other guys choose the pot size, after you've given them free cards on an extremely draw heavy board? [/ QUOTE ] No by checking the flop we've decided not to bloat the pot size. If we're called or raised we're in for a world of pain on later streets. What would you do if we get called and he checks a blank turn/cr a blank turn? [/ QUOTE ] bet to protect our hand and/or extract value? maybe folding to a c/r depending on sizes and reads/stats on players?
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