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Old 03-03-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

How do people in a poker forum not understand variance?
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

15 min levels are not bad heads-up.

Cheadle didn't look that bad during the Equalizer thing. It only takes one good hand at the right time.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

The blinds for the first round were 100/200, 200/400, 400/800, 600/1200, 800/1600, 1000/2000, then I presume the 1500/3000 cap.

15 minute rounds in heads up, there's enough play all things considered. Most of the matches were done under an hour.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:41 PM
J.C. Gloves J.C. Gloves is offline
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

20 mins per level, and best 2 out of 3 each match would be more of a true test. Doubling the blinds each round speeds it up a bit too, so adding a few levels... w/e its all for TV anyways.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

if you look at cheadle's pokerwire post ivey interview. he obviously understands poker. he basically said that his strategy was to play super agressive. he moved in preflop with most hands he intended to play and just hoped to not run into any big hands. pretty smart. he knows he can't outplay him post flop, so just play super aggro pre. works fine with a structure that moves so fast.
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

cheadle is the man.
ivey vs cheadle. ivey is prob a 58 or 59% favorite in one of these things. i bet cheadle is pretty sharp.

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Old 03-04-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

I just don't buy the idea that Ivey bothers going to the event, buys in for 25k and then just doesn't give a crap about the result so much so that he donks off to Don Cheadle in round 1. Heads up is high variance and he got the worse end of the deck this time around (just like he got bad beat to a chop against chad brown last year).

Everyone knows that Ivey focuses on cash games, but its getting annoying to constantly hear that he isn't trying in ANY of these tournaments.
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

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I just don't buy the idea that Ivey bothers going to the event, buys in for 25k and then just doesn't give a crap about the result so much so that he donks off to Don Cheadle in round 1. Heads up is high variance and he got the worse end of the deck this time around (just like he got bad beat to a chop against chad brown last year).

Everyone knows that Ivey focuses on cash games, but its getting annoying to constantly hear that he isn't trying in ANY of these tournaments.

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What's so hard to believe? Sometimes Phil brings his A-game, other times he doesn't. Or, as you say, it might just be headsup variance. Both are possibilities.
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Don Cheadle beats Phil Ivey, LOL

Most pros agree in any heads up game with blind increases NOONE has more than a 10% edge against any semi decent competent player. That means Ivey should lose about 45% of the time. No surprise.

Why they dont make it have no blind incrase is byond me. The matches could be super long but you would almost always see the best player win.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:29 PM
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I just don't buy the idea that Ivey bothers going to the event, buys in for 25k and then just doesn't give a crap about the result so much so that he donks off to Don Cheadle in round 1. Heads up is high variance and he got the worse end of the deck this time around (just like he got bad beat to a chop against chad brown last year).

Everyone knows that Ivey focuses on cash games, but its getting annoying to constantly hear that he isn't trying in ANY of these tournaments.

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What's so hard to believe? Sometimes Phil brings his A-game, other times he doesn't. Or, as you say, it might just be headsup variance. Both are possibilities.

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I've talked to some pros in the past and most told me that they put the Heads Up event in the top five that they want to win. I'm pretty sure that Ivey feels the same way and didn't want to go out so quick, espcially against an amateur.

Now, if you've got as much money as Ivey does, the sting probably goes away much quicker.
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