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Any point 4-betting here?
Full Tilt Poker Game #1817183210: Table Miragrande - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:12:57 ET - 2007/02/17
Seat 1: CO ($184.45) Seat 2: HERO ($167.90) Seat 3: SB ($140.05) Seat 4: BB ($214.15) Seat 5: UTG ($322.95) Seat 6: UTG+1 ($200) Seat 7: EP ($378.60) Seat 8: MP1 ($40) Seat 9: MP2 ($184.70) SB posts the small blind of $1 BB posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG raises to $4 3 folds CO calls $4 HERO calls $4 SB folds BB folds *** FLOP *** 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG checks CO checks HERO checks *** TURN *** 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] UTG checks CO checks HERO checks *** RIVER *** 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img][8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] UTG bets $5 CO folds HERO raises to $25 UTG has 15 seconds left to act UTG raises to $75 HERO ?? |
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
wow, please tell me you shoved.
also, reload preflop. |
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
Any stats on villain?
I probably just push. Any chance he was slowplaying AQ or something similar? [ QUOTE ] also, reload preflop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
Very much read dependent whether you get value from a four bet.
Your hand is definitely under-repped, though. I think you probably get calls from most queens from most opponents if you do. |
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
most villains at this level NEVER fold a queen here.
without a read, i think you must shove. |
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wierd line for aq or the like
why would someone play aq this way with str8 and flush draws out there?? also i would shove here.
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
utgs line looks more like 222 than a Q to me
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
I would push... cant be afraid of him having tens and like has been said, most people wont fold if they have a Q.
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Re: wierd line for aq or the like
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why would someone play aq this way with str8 and flush draws out there?? also i would shove here. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed, unless villain specifically has AQ of diamonds, in which case he has a great looking hand post-flop. It's surprising how often you'll see people slowplay when they probably should just bet. I also shove the eights full, as his reraise seems suspicious. He could have four queens, but if so, he'll get all of your money anyway. The better long term EV+ play is 4 betting, as you're ahead in this situation almost every time. |
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Re: Any point 4-betting here?
Why would the UTG raise PF and then check two streets and then spring to life on the river? Oh yah, he was slow playing on the flop with a set of Q's or T's because it's not likely he raised UTG with 2's. He would usually bet out a lone Q so I doubt he's got AQ. Note that he can continue to slow play the turn since he's filled up and no straight or flush can hurt. I hardly even call here let alone push.
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