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Old 01-29-2007, 06:20 PM
Senor Choppy Senor Choppy is offline
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Default How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

I'm curious what the standard lines are from premium hands in situations where both you and your opponent just keep raising, where do you either call or fold with these hands. Basically how deep in bbs do you have to be to call or fold:

KK:
QQ:
JJ:
AK:
AQ:

Assume you open in MP1 and an unknown villain raises you from the button. This is how the betting would look up to 1000bbs. H raises to $21, V reraises to $72, H reraises to $225, V reraises to $684, H reraises to $2061, V reraises to $6192.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

there are very few scenarios where i will ever put in a 4th bet with any of these with the intention of folding preflop.
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

cap all that shiz
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

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cap all that shiz

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What it's there's a 5-bet cap, are you really putting in a fifth bet with AQ?
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

well, as you know, I normally don't look at my cards until the flop. but if I accidentally saw that i had AQ, I would definitely get a cappucino.
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

every single one of these has different options based solely on stack sizes... that is always going to be the most important thing.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

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every single one of these has different options based solely on stack sizes... that is always going to be the most important thing.

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I guess I didn't do a good job of conveying it, but I was wondering what your stack size would be before you'd fold or slow down with these.

Like for me, I could get away from KK at 300bbs, QQ at 150, JJ at 60, or whatever. At what stack sizes would it be spew getting it in with them?
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

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every single one of these has different options based solely on stack sizes... that is always going to be the most important thing.

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I guess I didn't do a good job of conveying it, but I was wondering what your stack size would be before you'd fold or slow down with these.

Like for me, I could get away from KK at 300bbs, QQ at 150, JJ at 60, or whatever. At what stack sizes would it be spew getting it in with them?

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I have to know villain VERY well to get away from KK preflop ever at any stack size, same goes for getting it all in with JJ or AQ.....

I kind of see what you are asking but so difficult to precisely answer of course. I like playing post-flop poker so I'll slow down and call with AK, QQ or JJ sooner than most too.........
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: How many bets preflop with JJ-KK/AK/AQ...

So are we assuming no cap on the betting HU then? cuz i'd probably only go 5 bets with AQ
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