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Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
Villian, he's agro and plays with bricks in the whole. Razz ($0.50/$1), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.15 (converter) Seat 1: $3.40 Seat 2: $50.50 Seat 3: $27 Seat 4: $3.85 Seat 5: $7.60 Hero: $7.65 3rd Street - (1.20 SB) Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes 4th Street - (4.50 SB) Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls 5th Street - (3.25 BB) Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets 6th Street - (5.25 BB) Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls River - (7.25 BB) Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Total pot: (9.25 BB - $9.25) Results (in white):<font color="white"> Total pot $9.25 | Rake $0.45 Note: this site shuffles the hole cards. Seat 2: [Ks 9c 2s 5s Kh 3s 5c] - K,9,5,3,2 </font> |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
Only debatable street is 4th, but with such a live low hand + extra dead money in the pot, it should be OK (especially with his starting hand range). All other streets seem standard to me.
BTW, don't post results (at least not until you've gotten some comments on the hand). |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
I think this looks ok. When you consider that your assessment of the villian is that he is loose agressive, I agree even more. If he didn't brick on fifth it might be a different story though . . .
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
4th street you can call if you expect the other guy to limp along - you need to make up one big bet between 3rd street and 4th street to have the correct pot size to do this (around 7 SB or implied odds that the villain will see 1 more street if he bricks 2x). If you don't start raising that river vs this opponent you need to quit, thats such an easy raise!
TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
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If you don't start raising that river vs this opponent you need to quit, thats such an easy raise! TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] You're much braver than me. Are we really getting called enough to make a raise worthwhile? If villian has half a brain (debatable, perhaps), we're only getting looked up by rough 7-hands. He'll pop it with hands he can be sure beat us, and given his aggression, we would be stuck with a very tough decision facing the 3-bet.... |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't start raising that river vs this opponent you need to quit, thats such an easy raise! TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] You're much braver than me. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, but I have played hundreds of hours of lowball games. Raise, you can fold to a 3-bet vs most opponents here. The raise has tremendous value. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
TT - I wonder if you could comment on this line of thinking - I would not raise the river because my board is such that my opponent can know for a fact that he has me beat. Given this fact, I really don't want to see a re raise, so why not just call.
If you were the other player, would you re-raise bluff under any circumstances based on this scenario? |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
Should we be betting 5th? We have a 4 card 7 and our opponent may have a 4 card 6 or even a 5. Im pretty new to Razz but I wouldnt bet 5th. Is this incorrect?
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
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If you were the other player, would you re-raise bluff under any circumstances based on this scenario? [/ QUOTE ] How often do you see a re-raise bluff in Razz at this level? Its such an ABC game, people are petrified of calling a raise, let alone 3-bet bluffing. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] |
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Re: Razz- I know I played this wrong but take a look and tell me why
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[ QUOTE ] If you were the other player, would you re-raise bluff under any circumstances based on this scenario? [/ QUOTE ] How often do you see a re-raise bluff in Razz at this level? Its such an ABC game, people are petrified of calling a raise, let alone 3-bet bluffing. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] The re raise bluff was more of an afterthought to my original question regarding why not raise. The reason, however, that I think the bluff is possible in this case is because the opponent will know that you are raising with a 7. So if he could beat a seven, which is possible with the villian's board, it would be natural to raise. And if he raises, it would be foolish to call unless there was a good enough chance that he is bluffing to make it +EV. In short, I would call rather than raise on seventh because the opponent knows more about my hand (best I can have is 7) than I do about his (he could have wheel or six). |
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