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Old 01-20-2007, 12:58 PM
O Doyle Rules O Doyle Rules is offline
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

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I blame the players themselves. Most of the things you list would have been taken care of had online poker players demanded them:

- Demanding that our political representatives legalize online poker in order to regulate and tax it, encouraging the major international gaming corporations to enter the market and provide a better product and be more responsive to the consumer.
- Demanding that the existing online poker sites be more active to counter cheating.
- Demanding that the existing online poker sites protect the casual player by restricting datamining - no data mining through table observation, tougher enforcement of bans on supporting programs, lower limitis on multitabling.

But online poker players were too caught up in the gold rush and didn't care sufficiently about these issues, and we got what we deserve.

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Old 01-20-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

A better question is how can the WTO [censored] over the US so much that they are forced to bow to the Antiuaga decision.

Time to stop writing to congress and instead start writing to the WTO.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

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Another example of Americans thinking they are the world.

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We are without question the most important country in the world.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:20 PM
Taylor Caby Taylor Caby is offline
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

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I would say Cardrunners has made far more of an impact of the style of play at 6 max NL tables than Sklansky/Miller ever did btw..



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thanks. i've heard this a few times actually.

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Old 01-20-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

You left off the most obvious and correct answer.

The gov't and the US gambling lobby want their piece of the pie.

Any questions?
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

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Another example of Americans thinking they are the world.

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We are without question the most screwed-up country in the world.

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Old 01-20-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

That kid in Allentown who robbed a bank because he lost all his money online.

He became the face of online poker to people like my mother and all her yenta friends ... you know, the people who have enough time to write a letter and b*tch about this stuff to their congressmen.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

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The gov't and the US gambling lobby want their piece of the pie.

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True. I know Frist / UIGEA still have your attention, but that was just the most recent shot from the US gov't, which was acting in the interests of

1.) the B&M gambling lobby (it really can't be overstated how much B&M casinos hated their online cousins)
2.) the corporate anti-gambling lobby (NFL, etc.)
3.) the conservative, family-oriented anti-gambling lobby (whose importance is overestimated on 2p2, but was still a factor)

I also like what sputum said:

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Who is most responsible for the idea that online poker should be insanely profitable forever?

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It's not good change, but it's so much healthier to adapt to and accept the change than to try to assign perfect proportions of blame to everyone responsible for the change.
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Who is most responsible for the demise of online poker?

Land based casinos are to blame. They funded Frist back when online gaming wasn't huge. Now that it is they want a piece of the pie, as does the federal government. Frist needed to repay the debt before getting out of office and called in favors to attach it to the a bill that would never not pass, the safe ports bill. They are in bed together. Eventually online poker in the US will become much smaller. Land based casinos are already regulated and could easily step in be regulated online and collect taxes with a system already in place to collect taxes. The pent up demand from casual player will be build up again and will produce huge revenues for land based casinos and the federal goverment. Sites like pokers stars and full tilt will get bought up just like every big dot com does.
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