2008 National Champions (NCAAF)

[MyTurn2Raise]

posted a month ago before the bowl season
every conference is about even over recent history

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here are the sagrin conference ratings for recent years
there is alot of flux and small edges
with the sample size issues, it's tough to determine if the second best team in the fourth best conference is better than the champ of the best, etc

Current 2006 Conference
1 PAC-10
2 SEC
3 BIG EAST
4 BIG TEN
5 BIG 12

2005 Final
1 BIG TEN
2 ACC
3 BIG 12
4 PAC-10
5 SEC

2004 Final
1 ACC
2 PAC-10
3 I-A INDEPENDENTS
4 BIG 12
5 BIG TEN
6 SEC

2003 Final
1 ACC
2 SEC
3 BIG TEN
4 PAC-10
5 BIG 12

2002 Final
1 BIG 12
2 PAC-10
3 SEC
4 ACC
5 BIG TEN

2001 Final
1 SEC
2 BIG 12
3 PAC-10
4 ACC
5 BIG TEN

2000 Final
1 PAC-10
2 BIG 12
3 BIG TEN
4 BIG EAST
5 SEC


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[IlliniLou]

I-L-L






I-N-I !!!!

I can dream can't I?

[jbrent33]

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posted a month ago before the bowl season
every conference is about even over recent history

[ QUOTE ]
here are the sagrin conference ratings for recent years
there is alot of flux and small edges
with the sample size issues, it's tough to determine if the second best team in the fourth best conference is better than the champ of the best, etc

Current 2006 Conference
1 PAC-10
2 SEC
3 BIG EAST
4 BIG TEN
5 BIG 12

2005 Final
1 BIG TEN
2 ACC
3 BIG 12
4 PAC-10
5 SEC

2004 Final
1 ACC
2 PAC-10
3 I-A INDEPENDENTS
4 BIG 12
5 BIG TEN
6 SEC

2003 Final
1 ACC
2 SEC
3 BIG TEN
4 PAC-10
5 BIG 12

2002 Final
1 BIG 12
2 PAC-10
3 SEC
4 ACC
5 BIG TEN

2001 Final
1 SEC
2 BIG 12
3 PAC-10
4 ACC
5 BIG TEN

2000 Final
1 PAC-10
2 BIG 12
3 BIG TEN
4 BIG EAST
5 SEC


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The Sagrin ratings are hardly the best measure. Let's take a look. Team by team standings, before the bowls. I think anybody can look at this and see glaring mistakes.


1 Ohio State
2 Southern California
3 Michigan
4 LSU
5 Louisville
6 Florida
7 California
8 West Virginia
9 Boise State
10 Tennessee
11 Arkansas
12 Auburn
13 Notre Dame
14 Oklahoma
15 Wisconsin
16 Rutgers
17 Virginia Tech
18 Oregon State
19 Texas
20 UCLA
21 BYU
22 Oregon
23 Penn State
24 Clemson
25 Boston College
26 South Carolina
27 Arizona State
28 Hawaii
29 Georgia
30 Nebraska

[MyTurn2Raise]

ummm....Sagarin predictor is #1 at forecasting game outcomes

that is the only measure that counts in my eyes.

PS...I don't see what is glaringly wrong with that top25...seems better than the human polls

[jbrent33]

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ummm....Sagarin predictor is #1 at forecasting game outcomes

that is the only measure that counts in my eyes.

PS...I don't see what is glaringly wrong with that top25...seems better than the human polls

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In the top 10 alone:
5 Louisville
7 Cal
10 Tenn
Those look right to you? If so we have different idea of what a good football team is. In my opinion teams would be dogs to alot of the teams ranked 11-30

[MyTurn2Raise]

that looks fine

I think Louisville might be the best team in the nation that just had one bad half.

[jbrent33]

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that looks fine

I think Louisville might be the best team in the nation that just had one bad half.

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You can't really believe this. Take a look at the ranked opponents (at the time of the game)

Miami - terrible this year
West Virginia - Over rated
Rutgers - loss
Wake Forrest - seriously Wake Forrest should not be in the top 20

The best thing Louisville has going for them is the band kid in the wheel chair

[Caldarooni]

Cal was a much better football team this year than their final record indicated. Just as teams can overachieve, this one underachieved imo.