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12-14-2006, 10:53 AM
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($20) What to do with these AK\'s?
These hands been bugging me for a while now, what do you think the best course of action for each is?
Hand 1: $20 9 handed sng jimstringer has $470 BigRM has $2,020 tynesideno1 has $930 dfolde has $5,210 pr3d1t0r has $2,200 jazzy579 has $1,820 button - spamster has $1,760 sb - Machrie Bay has $1,840 bb - qwertyui9 has $1,750 qwertyui9 has As Kh jimstringer folded. BigRM folded. tynesideno1 folded. dfolde folded. pr3d1t0r called 60 and raised 120 jazzy579 called 180 and raised 1,640 and is All-in spamster folded. qwertyui9? hand 2, same table now 8 handed sb - jimstringer has $370 bb - igRM has $3,830 tynesideno1 has $780 dfolde has $4,760 pr3d1t0r has $3,060 jazzy579 has $1,940 DeMachrie Bay has $1,810 Dealer - qwertyui9 has $1,450 jazzy579 called 100 and raised 1,840 and is All-in Machrie Bay folded. qwertyui9? Any comments much appreciated. 
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#2
12-14-2006, 11:00 AM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
Hand 1) fold, you're healthy and can't really hope to better than a coin flip
Hand 2) i call, you're not nearly as deep anymore and this looks like a good spot to try and double up. You are also more likely to be ahead of his range here given the larger blinds.
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12-14-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
I presto fold in both case.
2nd hand BB is 100, right ? You really need a read that he push more than 88+ AQ, AJs, here. Usually you need KK+ to call something like a 20 BB push.
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#6
12-14-2006, 11:57 AM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
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2nd hand BB is 100, right ? You really need a read that he push more than 88+ AQ, AJs, here. Usually you need KK+ to call something like a 20 BB push. [/ QUOTE ] But hero only has 14 BBs. I also take into account the fact that the table is still eight handed and future stealing oppurtunities may be sparse.
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#7
12-14-2006, 12:08 PM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
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pr3d1t0r called 60 and raised 120 jazzy579 called 180 and raised 1,640 and is All-in jazzy579 called 100 and raised 1,840 and is All-in Any comments much appreciated. [/ QUOTE ] obv string bets. Fold both hands. Call if they are nutzo or you wanna gamble.
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#8
12-14-2006, 12:09 PM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
The guy who pushed was very active in late position and I felt ak was probably ahead of his range here. I was also getting quite short with 14 bbs and blinds were up in 3 minutes. I ended up calling as I thought this was as good an opportunity to double up as i could get at the time. He showed 44 and I lost. I dont like calling off all my chips here with AK though, do most people think its a case of waiting and trying to get chips in first here?
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#9
12-14-2006, 12:19 PM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
To be clearer, the good / bad call chage really quick depending on pusher range. It's neutral EV at 7.5% (88+,AJ+,ATs+). If he is tighter, this is horrible.
It is +1%$EV if he is pushing more than 15% (like it seems to be the case). In these kind of situation I like to wait. Note that you're not desesperate.
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#10
12-14-2006, 12:27 PM
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Re: What to do with these AK\'s?
I fully agree with a longer structure but in a couple of hands
the blind increase will give me only 7 bbs and at an 8 handed table it looks like im going to have to find a genuine hand pretty soon. Does this change anything in your eyes? (im pretty new to sngs in case that didint show :-)
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