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Old 11-14-2006, 07:34 AM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: need some info from seasoned grinders

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no just asking if they now give full hand history's since two people have offered that as the only reasonable explaination of why someone has all hole cards in their history

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Wait, wait... The ONLY reasonable explanation? Did you read the posts saying it was a prank?
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:13 AM
Boredom Boredom is offline
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Default Re: need some info from seasoned grinders

All,

I have it on good authority that, in the next update, FTP will begin offering COMPLETE hand history records for all players, in every hand history. So when you pull up a HH from now on, it will contain EVERY hand history for every hand ever played on FTP by all players, with of course all holecard info as well. Just a head's up, and yes I too think this will be great for the game.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:34 AM
bettyqs bettyqs is offline
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Default Re: need some info from seasoned grinders

Reply from stars....

"The proper rules of poker are that when the last bet has been called,
players are to display their hands in order starting with the last
raiser and proceeding to the last caller. All hands are to be shown.

Over time, it has become accepted practice for players whose hands
cannot beat the best hand thus far showing to simply muck. However,
as in most all card rooms, a player that pays the last bet has "paid
to see your cards".

In a brick and mortar cardroom, any player may say to the dealer, "I
want to see his cards"... and if those cards paid the last bet, they
must be displayed. On PokerStars, "I want to see those cards" is done
in the form of requesting the hand history. Only the cards of the
players who called the last bet will be revealed -- if you fold facing
a bet, your cards remain unknown to everyone. Such information will
be revealed only to a player dealt into the game. If an observer
requests that hand history, they will not see such information.

Therefore, the presence of mucked hole cards from showdowns is in
accordance with the generally accepted principles of poker.

This information is also available to players who have activated
the "Instant Hand History". But remember, they will only see your
cards if you reached the showdown, and only if they were dealt into
the hand.

It is not true you can see all the hole cards, for every player though. You
will only see hole cards of players that remain in the hand.

I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not
hesitate to let us know any time you need anything.

Regards,

Russell
PokerStars Support Team
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