I'm shocked that these arb threads are still going.

[Homer]

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You should know that by cultivating new arbers you are also alienating established high volume arbers who would have used your links but are now staying away from your site.

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I should also point out that I care not what these "high volume" players think, because (for the most part) instead of taking the high road and voicing their opinions in an adult manner, they chose to bash me behind my back when I have never been anything but civil and willing to do what I could to help these people make money.

[Homer]

95% of the arbs I find are dead within the time it would take me to post them here. Most people are arbing just to clear bonuses and aren't doing anything more fancy. So, I'm not particularly concerned about the quality of arbs going down. However, you're not alone in thinking that sharing will make things less profitable for everyone. There are a handful of people I know of who bad mouth me (behind my back, of course) for sharing any tidbit of information.

[kdog]

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95% of the arbs I find are dead within the time it would take me to post them here. Most people are arbing just to clear bonuses and aren't doing anything more fancy. So, I'm not particularly concerned about the quality of arbs going down. However, you're not alone in thinking that sharing will make things less profitable for everyone. There are a handful of people I know of who bad mouth me (behind my back, of course) for sharing any tidbit of information

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Hehe. Homer I'd say you still have a loooong way to go to piss off more people with this than you did posting casino bonus information. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I love people who stick it to greedy bastards. Keep up the good work.

[primetime32]

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I'm shocked that these arb threads are still going.

I am amazed that anyone that makes money with arbs would want to teach others how to do it. By doing so, these people are creating competition for themselves. As more people arb, the chance of finding arbs go down because the markets become more efficient.

I know some say they do it to give to the other forum members. They found an arb; got it; and pass it on to others. The thing is this favor doesn't get returned. I see the same handful of people posting arbs, and they the number viewing them is much higher. Basically, you're giving money to someone that isn't going to give it back.

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Do you understand the purpose of this forum in general? People come on this site and help each other get better at poker even though that may help make their competition better down the road. If you don't like that concept, perhaps this forum isn't for you.

[Quadstriker]

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perhaps this forum isn't for you.

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kthxbye.

[kiddj]

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NCAAF

Pinn: Louisville -7 @ +108
SIA: Rutgers +7 @ -105 ($550 max?)

[grafyx]

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NCAAF

Pinn: Louisville -7 @ +108
SIA: Rutgers +7 @ -105 ($550 max?)

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Is the middle more profitable with Lville -6.5 -103 ?

[playersare]

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Is the middle more profitable with Lville -6.5 -103 ?

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if you assume 6% push on the spread of 7 like on NFL (college may be slightly higher or lower), then going for the side is slightly better.

as a straight arb you are looking at a guaranteed profit of +1.5c. the side on 7 will pay +100c about 6% of the time, subtracted by a loss of -4c the other 94% of the time, which results in a net EV of +2.24c.

selling back points to pinnacle as an arb almost always costs you some return, especially around key numbers where they charge a higher premium than other sites.

[chachi]

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Do you understand the purpose of this forum in general? People come on this site and help each other get better at poker even though that may help make their competition better down the road. If you don't like that concept, perhaps this forum isn't for you.

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There is a difference. Creating better poker players helps to create games as winners play more often, which help to bring new players to poker. The more games there are, the better chance a new player has to finding his/her way to a game. So by making players better, estabilshed players give up some marketshare, but, in doing so, they make the whole market larger.

Arbing is different. Arbs exist because markets are inefficient. The more people there are looking for arbs, the more efficient the markets become. By helping others arb better, existing arbers reduce their market share and reduce the size of the market as well.

To Homer's point, the nmore people that use arbs to clear bonuses, the more money books give out. Eventually, this will lead to a reduction in bonuses and/or worse terms for the bonuses that do exist.

Also, the profit from arbs comes out of the pocket of the books. The more money arbers make, the higher the chances of books loosing money and maybe even going out of business. This too reduces the size of the market. I admit, this argument is a bit of a reach, but it is still valid.

[MyTurn2Raise]

chachi,

has the wide release of information hurt +ev opportunities in the financial markets?