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QQ, OOP, too weak?
Brand new to the table, no stats/reads. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.
Party Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: $100 UTG+1: $104.45 CO: $95.55 Button: $96.74 SB: $95.30 BB: $245.50 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15.5, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $10</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($35.5, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $10</font>, Hero calls. River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($55.5, 2 players) Hero checks, Button checks. Results: Final pot: $55.5 |
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
You'll probably see TT/JJ here most of the time IMO. I like it. Those minreraises preflop scare me without reads, which could be AA/KK.
I guess you could throw out a 1/2 pot on the river and fold to a push, but I think c/c the whole way works too. |
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I like a c/c on flop and lead turn for about 25$, or a c/r on the flop. Leading the flop will generally get the hands you beat (AK/AQ) out, although JJ/TT will also stay in I guess. Still, you definitely didn't play this hand very strong. As played, lead the river for 35$ (making a pot-sized raise on the turn commits you and you're never getting value out of TT-JJ)
don't know how correct my reasoning is, anyone care to comment? |
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I like putting in a strong c/r on the flop...in my life, a K or A will come on the turn here if you don't.
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I also think a check raise on the flop or even leading out is better then checking, you let him take control of the hand, and since you have no reads you can't tell whether he is bluffing with ace king or has rockets. I would have lead out on the flop, if he re-raised depending on how much I would call, and probably check and fold the turn to a bet.
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I really don't understand the purpose of a c/r on this flop. This seems like a classis WA/WB situation. Even if he has AK, he is only drawing to 6 outs. If feel like a c/r only folds hands I beat and gets called by JJ-AA. Same with a lead, It doesn't allow me to snap off a cbet, and will prob only get called by JJ-AA on this board, a range which I am well behind.
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I think you played if fine imo, villians turn bet is very weak though so I'd think about leading the river small for value but I think it's pretty thin.
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
villain = obv donk w/AK
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
If AK, or either since we don't know which, 6 cards will suck...that's roughly 1/4 the time by river. But sounds like the more experienced posters don't see value in pushing a little more on the flop? Any further thoughts appreciated...
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Re: QQ, OOP, too weak?
I'm still interested in any further thoughts on this...tx
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