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Flat call & play position? I don't like the shove in a sat.
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I open fold this and don't think twice about it.
Look at the positioning of the table. UTG (you say is a good 2+2er, so what) is very short and has the big stack in the BB. He's going to have to steal and steal lots in order to make you uncomfortable about your stack. MP has a decent enough stack, and he obviously doesn't understand the satellite implications here so he very well could be pushing on UTG's BB as well. There comes a point where you need to stop worrying about accumulating chips and wait. This is that point. If you somehow become the shorty, then you can push/raise when necessary and work from there. But I think your play in 300% worse than his. Brad |
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MP has a decent enough stack, and he obviously doesn't understand the satellite implications here so he very well could be pushing on UTG's BB as well. [/ QUOTE ] Silly question but how do we know MP doesn't understand satellite implications well? |
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Flat call & play position? I don't like the shove in a sat. [/ QUOTE ] Position? You are the SB. I would fold and wait. I don't mind raising, open pushing, restealing with junkier hands in earlier position later on if necessary. |
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The blinds aren't big enough to risk running into a hand or an idiot. I might have raised 2xBB to take the blinds if he had junk and folded to a re raise. [/ QUOTE ] I really dislike making a 2x/3x/4xbb raise here (but I'm sure it's probably better than doing what I did; having said that, I'm almost positive a min-raise/3xbb raise is -tEV and -$EV here). I'd open fold before I'd min-raise, but I'm willing to hear how others feel. |
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I'd just complete.
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If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise.
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If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. BB has an incentive to allow you to lose the tournament. He has enough chips to make this happen with reasonable hands. |
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If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise. [/ QUOTE ] Minraising just feels like a chip leak to me, particularly if he's not playing correctly. He's got a monster stack and he's almost certainly calling with any 2, which means I'm now building a pot out of position with a medicore hand that I'll almost certainly have to lay down on 85%+ of flops when I don't spike an 8 (and even on some when I do but the flop comes three suited and/or is highly coordinated, etc.). If he's playing correctly, it doesn't seem to matter if I min-raise or push, right? And if he's playing incorrectly, minraising just allows him the chance to play perfectly. |
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