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Flat call & play position? I don't like the shove in a sat. [/ QUOTE ] Position? You are the SB. I would fold and wait. I don't mind raising, open pushing, restealing with junkier hands in earlier position later on if necessary. |
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The blinds aren't big enough to risk running into a hand or an idiot. I might have raised 2xBB to take the blinds if he had junk and folded to a re raise. [/ QUOTE ] I really dislike making a 2x/3x/4xbb raise here (but I'm sure it's probably better than doing what I did; having said that, I'm almost positive a min-raise/3xbb raise is -tEV and -$EV here). I'd open fold before I'd min-raise, but I'm willing to hear how others feel. |
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I'd just complete.
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Both of you made a mistake. You have way too many chips to open push this. He has way too many chips to call this open push. And this would be crappy even if it wasn't a flat payout bubble situation.
Just complete and play poker or 3x raise and play poker. |
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I open fold this and don't think twice about it.
Look at the positioning of the table. UTG (you say is a good 2+2er, so what) is very short and has the big stack in the BB. He's going to have to steal and steal lots in order to make you uncomfortable about your stack. MP has a decent enough stack, and he obviously doesn't understand the satellite implications here so he very well could be pushing on UTG's BB as well. There comes a point where you need to stop worrying about accumulating chips and wait. This is that point. If you somehow become the shorty, then you can push/raise when necessary and work from there. But I think your play in 300% worse than his. Brad |
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MP has a decent enough stack, and he obviously doesn't understand the satellite implications here so he very well could be pushing on UTG's BB as well. [/ QUOTE ] Silly question but how do we know MP doesn't understand satellite implications well? |
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If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise.
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If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. BB has an incentive to allow you to lose the tournament. He has enough chips to make this happen with reasonable hands. |
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[ QUOTE ] If the BB was playing correctly, then the push is correct. There is no way he is calling you with any cards. In the real world, fold, complete, or miniraise. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. BB has an incentive to allow you to lose the tournament. He has enough chips to make this happen with reasonable hands. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. Unless BB has it in for you, he can fold his way in and it is disadvantageous for him to call, probably even with AA. However, people don't usually become chip leaders in satellites by playing correctly. |
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