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Old 04-26-2006, 07:59 PM
AllIn3High AllIn3High is offline
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Default Marginal flush situation

SB is a donkey, BB is 30/13.. haven't seen anything out of the ordinary.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($850.65)
UTG ($1581.80)
MP ($512.32)
Hero ($1769.17)
SB ($558)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $6, Hero calls $6, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($24) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $92.9</font>, Hero calls $92.90, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $332</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $1670.27 (All-In).

(around $520 for BB to call)


Dunno?
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Marginal flush situation

extremely standard, boring, you suck.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:12 PM
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wow.. raise pre flop
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Marginal flush situation

I probably raise to 300 the first time around and if BB is a tight player, id fold to his allin. If hes an aggressive nonregular id call an allin.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Marginal flush situation

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wow.. raise pre flop

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either or, but I think calling is standard. I find people get sick of my raises/aggression after a few orbits and I prefer limping sometimes in position with a hand like this and, dare I say it? open limping...
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:15 PM
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extremely standard, boring, you suck.

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So what's the worst flush you die with here.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Marginal flush situation

ahnold - Why do you care if they start to dislike your aggression?
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:18 PM
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wow.. raise pre flop

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either or, but I think calling is standard. I find people get sick of my raises/aggression after a few orbits and I prefer limping sometimes in position with a hand like this and, dare I say it? open limping...

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then what you meant to say is that raising is standard, and that you need a reason to call instead

i'm pretty shocked to see good player like allin hating money here with a limp
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Marginal flush situation

tough. i don't think BB puts you on a flush given your cold call, but he's not afraid of MP either. so he has a flush (prolly better), the nut draw, or middle/bottom set. he might not play the nut draw this way when he has the chance to close the action cheaply, and also his having Ac means he has to put you both on made hands.

but you have underrepresented your hand here. hmm. well, there are 6 ways for him to have sets. 18 bigger flushes. 10 smaller flushes. and 36 nut draws. i am too lazy to do the exact math, but i think you need him to play the naked Ac like this 25% of the time for the all-in to be correct -- and also, some of those Ac hands are unlikely as he may have raised AK, AQ preflop (i already ruled out AA). and the half-pot flop bet doesn't look like a semibluff to me. i think this is a fold.

edit: he could have flopped two pair too. hmm.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:23 PM
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I find after a bit and with certian opponents in the blinds ill start to get played back at too much and limping becomes more profitable. I still think limping is standard, at least for my type of game. But if your stats are like 14/5 then I could see reasons to raise.
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