1-2.....tough spot against (preflop) maniac

[euroglot]

Villain has the stats 77.8/44.4/2.5/ after 27 hands.

Full ring game..

Preflop:
2 folds, Villain raises, 2 folds, I 3bet with KT, 3 folds, Villain calls.

Flop 3c 8h Qd (7.5 SB)
Villain checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn Qc (4.75BB)
Villain checks, I bet, now Villain checkraises me..

I know almost for sure he doesn't have a Q...but I don't know what to do..

Hero?

[mikeca]

Wow, I thought those kind of maniacs only existed in B&M.

I personally would not 3 bet isolate the maniac with KT. I really don’t like KT and don’t think it is a very strong hand. Still he is raising 44% preflop, so maybe this is not too bad.

The problem I always have with maniacs is they play junk hands the same as quality hands. Too many times when I try to take them on, it turns out they have a quality hand better than mine.

Since I don’t play online, don’t take what I say very seriously. I will let the online players comment

[Niediam]

Preflop: Good

Flop: Good

Turn: You can either bet intending to call down if villian raises or you can probably do the 'turn value check' line from WITHG (checking the turn but calling/raising any river). Key here is not folding.

[One Outer]

Preflop is borderline. I don't like it, but meh.

Hero folds. Am I missing something here? This looks really standard.

[Niediam]

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Preflop is borderline. I don't like it, but meh.

Hero folds. Am I missing something here? This looks really standard.

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You are missing a lot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Folding is terrible. We will often be ahead and those times we arn't we almost always have six outs.

[One Outer]

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You are missing a lot. Folding is terrible.

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Ignore me; I'm exhausted.

Are you talking about preflop? I'm ok with the preflop but I don't think it's great. I guess I just don't really have a lot of experience with this type of player. Fortunately, I play at a cardroom overflowing with passive as opposed to maniacal donkeys.

[Niediam]

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You are missing a lot. Folding is terrible.

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Ignore me; I'm exhausted.

Are you talking about preflop? I'm ok with the preflop but I don't think it's great. I guess I just don't really have a lot of experience with this type of player. Fortunately, I play at a cardroom overflowing with passive as opposed to maniacal donkeys.

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I meant on the turn.

I do like the preflop 3bet but it's close... mostly because we have a fair number of active players behind it. It really hurts when somebody else joins us in the fun.

[joedot]

If you do anything other than fold this turn you are now the maniac. Wait for a better spot.

[euroglot]

The weird thing about those pokerforums is that everyone thinks in a different way. Now I still don't know what's the right thing to do. 1 says call down, the other fold.... ... .. ?

[OziBattler]

if you dont know how to handle a CR then consider checking behind the turn and calling a river bet when maniac bets 9 high.