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Old 07-17-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

comments on flop appreciated as well, but I think the raise is necessary with 2 broadways on the flop and someone to act behind me.

BB seems LAGy or maybe a LAGTAG picking up a lot of hands

button is 50/6/.8
"l AJo,TT utg
bad at VB
call down v light
slowplay tp to turn in blind steal
pretty passive"

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Pre-flop: (5 players) yourface is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, yourface calls, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">yourface bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, BB folds,

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Old 07-17-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

Pretty easy fold for me when he raises 3 way. He probably needs 2 pair+ to raise this turn and most of them have you drawing dead.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

Seems like a fold.
His raise into 2 players **probably ** isn't a draw, and if he's ahead - he's way, way ahead.
You definately have the best hand every now and then, but if he's not ahead here - he almost certainly has 8+ outs.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

what am I missing, isn't this like the easiest turn fold ever.

He cold calls two on the flop, and pops you on the turn, when he knows you have AK
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

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what am I missing, isn't this like the easiest turn fold ever.

He cold calls two on the flop, and pops you on the turn, when he knows you have AK

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Agreed. And I am not sure you need to raise that flop.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

I like the flop raise but I'm unsure of the turn. I actually am leaning towards checking...the button has you beat sooo often and BB might be going for a (ill-advised) c/r. The pot is big enough at this point that I don't really wanna fold a hand with 3+ outs and lots of chop potential. So I think I'd check and call one more back to me and then likely do the same on the river.
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

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I like the flop raise but I'm unsure of the turn. I actually am leaning towards checking...the button has you beat sooo often and BB might be going for a (ill-advised) c/r. The pot is big enough at this point that I don't really wanna fold a hand with 3+ outs and lots of chop potential. So I think I'd check and call one more back to me and then likely do the same on the river.

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I missed the pot size on the flop. I like frop raise as well
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

k just checkin
I hate folding TP in big pots but I figured I was drawing dead most of the time

turn c/c is an interesting idea, I'll def think about that some more
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: raised on turn with TPNK in big pot

i don't like checking turn given description of this guy. we know where we're at when raised, and he's the type to call two cold with a gutterball or any j/6/bdfd.

if we check he's pretty much only going to bet better hands right?? so why c/c and not c/f
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