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Old 07-14-2007, 07:13 PM
baker2g baker2g is offline
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Default any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

i limp in middle position with J10cc, 2 other limpers, cutoff raises to $35 (standard raise in this game)sb calls(500ish), utg calls and i call, utg (covers)is a tricky regular, sb isnt that good and the cutoff is kind of abc-ish i put him on A9+, my image is fairly tight aggressive

my stack size is $450

flop comes 8910 with the 8 of clubs, checked to me i bet $25 with the cutoff folding and the sb and utg calling
the turn in the Kc and both check to me, i bet $100 into about $200, sb folds and utg puts me all in for $150 more.. can i fold? its 150 into about 560ish
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

preflop too loose.

flop, whatever.

lol at folding the turn. you need to push there. as played, instacall.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

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any other way to play this?

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Yup.

You could have folded PF (the first time or even the second time), but calling or raising can be fine

You could have made a non donkey bet on the flop ($25 into like $125? wtf?)

You could have checked or pushed the turn, instead of choosing the worst bet size possible.

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can i fold?

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Nope.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

this game was super loose and wide open, $35 pf is the standard raise that was going, i think folding this hand 4 way in 2nd best position with the stack sizes given is a bad play, my $25 dollar bet = $50-$75 (they would call that much if they call my $25 from the way the table was playing)and they both check to me on the turn, why is $100 with the intention of calling a push bad here? i want to take the pot down and if im raised i dont think im any worse than 60-40 unless someone has a set and nobody re popped me on the flop
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:30 PM
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why is $100 with the intention of calling a push bad here?

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What was the point of the bet?
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

to take the pot down as they checked to me on the flop and turn
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

can you tell me why my bet was so bad there?
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:37 PM
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this game was super loose and wide open, $35 pf is the standard raise that was going, i think folding this hand 4 way in 2nd best position with the stack sizes given is a bad play, my $25 dollar bet = $50-$75 (they would call that much if they call my $25 from the way the table was playing)and they both check to me on the turn, why is $100 with the intention of calling a push bad here? i want to take the pot down and if im raised i dont think im any worse than 60-40 unless someone has a set and nobody re popped me on the flop

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preflop: well, you called hoping to flop a miracle. the flop and turn were as good as you could realistically hope for, and you still got yourself in a mess. so why was preflop so great again?

flop: if you think you have the best hand w/ a good draw, why are you letting people come along so cheap when you say they will happily call more with worse hands?

turn: checking behind is fine, as jim said. but if you're going to bet and reopen the action, you have to call a c/r because of your outs. so why are you betting an amount that will let a king go all in? how about betting an amount that actually has some chance of folding out a better hand.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:38 PM
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to take the pot down

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So the point of the bet was entirely to fold out hands with 2-5 outs?
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: any other way to play this? live 3/6NL

i bet because i didnt think they could call and i was happy taking the pot down there, and if i get raised i dont think im that far behind
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