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reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
SB: $64.05 <font color="black">Hero (BB): $197.00</font> UTG: $200.00 CO: $206.90 BTN: $201.13 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is a strong 31/23/4 LAG</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8.00, SB folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($24) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, BTN calls $30.00 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($144) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $131.13</font>, Hero folds Pot Size: $275.13 My thoughts: 1. He limp-called preflop, which I see as a small pocket pair calling for set odds, maybe a small SC. 2. On the flop, he minraises me. He probably thinks I'm cbetting here (in which he is correct), but he can't have a good hand himself. 3. Therefore, a reraise should make him lay down small PPs (and air, of course). I'm representing TT+ after all. 4. But he calls my 3bet! I am lost and decide to just give it up with a check/fold. Is my line of thinking correct? +EV or -EV? |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
1) yeti theorem - pfr 3bets on paired board=bluff
2) whyd you 3bet so tiny 3) when he calls flop, he usually has a 2 if he's decent |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
miniraise bluffing = -ev
I think you should have raised more preflop also. |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
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1) yeti theorem - pfr 3bets on paired board=bluff 2) whyd you 3bet so tiny 3) when he calls flop, he usually has a 2 if he's decent [/ QUOTE ] what hands do you honestly see this villain calling with PF that have a 2????? I think that yeti applies, especially with the horrible 3-bet here, but I think villain has a hand like 33-88,9T/j10 way more often and simply made a good read on a crappy steal. And WTF????? are we doing checking the turn when we 3-bet this flop, you are saying to the lag please treat me like your [censored]. |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
Thanks for the responses so far.
I didn't know of the yeti theorem before, but I looked it up and I learned something today! I guess my line was worse than I thought it was. [ QUOTE ] 2) whyd you 3bet so tiny [/ QUOTE ] If villain was bluffing, I expected a small raise to have the same effect as a large raise. A minraise to $45 would be too suspicious of course. $60 seemed fine to me. Am I wrong? [ QUOTE ] And WTF????? are we doing checking the turn when we 3-bet this flop, you are saying to the lag please treat me like your [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] As I said, I was lost. I expected to take it down on the flop. I'm not going to bet or shove here, because he probably puts me on exactly what I have, and call me with his pair. On the flop, I did not expect him to read me that well. I felt check-folding was my only option left. Either way, I now realize I should not have 3-bet on the flop |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
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And WTF????? are we doing checking the turn when we 3-bet this flop, you are saying to the lag please treat me like your [censored]. [/ QUOTE ] QFT Can someone go more into the Yeti theorem? If you 3bet PF and bet a paired flop its a bluff or is the villian going to bluff raise you oftern? More detail would be appreciated. -JB |
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Re: reraise-bluffing a LAG - fine or spew?
I found this one:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post9622773 |
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