weird turn spot w aj

[lapoker17]

3/6 co(580) opens to 16, button (350) calls, i call in sb w A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

flop T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

ckd around

turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 51)

i lead for 45, co miraises button pushes for 320 total.

[TheWorstPlayer]

weird indeed. i'd just push. CO has garbage for sure unless he has precisely 888. If BN has a pair below JJ, that's awesome and sometimes he has no pair which is even more awesome.

[lapoker17]

are there hands that co could possibly call with that we would want him in for? or are calling and pushing close to the same?

on the other side, does he fold 888 here ever if we push rather than call?

[TheWorstPlayer]

IMO: no, yes, no.

[jkkkk]

hmm slightly worse than 2:1, its a one hell of a profitable shove if BN has a draw here a lot.. I don't know why a draw shoves though, looks like a big hand to me... unless you have some sort of read?

I guess he has something goofey here enough to make up the times you have 30% equity vs the straight, oh and as for co I definitely want fold equity vs his range more than anything, so aiaiaiaiai

[lapoker17]

so not that interesting a result except that i sucked out - i pushed co folded, button had 67cc i rivered a queen.

[ahnuld]

I think this is a fold. And reraise preflop, and lead flop imo

[ahnuld]

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so not that interesting a result except that i sucked out - i pushed co folded, button had 67cc i rivered a queen.

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or do this, its more profitable.

[TheWorstPlayer]

this is one of the worst possible arrangements and it's still not that bad. folding this is silly.

[jkkkk]

When first I saw this I thought 'hmm facing a minraise and shove on the turn with a draw, lol fold' but a little extra thought makes this a pretty easy push imo unless CO is a nit.