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Old 05-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Zagga Zagga is offline
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Default AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

No reads on villain, except that he is french and sits shortstacked so probadly isn't a good player. Did I overplay AK here or is this standard?

- $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em -
Seat 2: SB ($22.55)
Seat 3: BB ($29.34)
Seat 6: Hero (Btn) ($72.90)
*** PREFLOP ***
Hero is button with [Ac Kc]
Hero raises to $1.75, SB folds, BB calls ($1,25)

<font color="blue"> Standard</font>

*** FLOP *** [Jc 6h 9h] ($3,75)
BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.25, BB calls

<font color="blue"> Pretty standard, but I might have been better by raising to $4 </font>

*** TURN *** [Jc 6h 9h] [6d] ($10,25)
BB bets $3.00, Hero calls

<font color="blue">Very weard lead by the Villain here. I put him on a marginal hand he wants cheaply showdowned or a flush/straigthdraw (8T/TQ). I think it is too expensive to find out here and I have no fold equity if he has a marginal hand. If he has a draw I have him beat now and a big raise will only be called by a better hand. Anyone shoving here? (he has about $20 behind), anyone folding?</font>


*** RIVER *** [Jc 6h 9h 6d] [2c] ($16,25)
BB bets $16.25, Hero calls

<font color="blue">The 2 changes nothing except that every draw has missed. Villain showed enoumous weaknes by his weak leads on the flop and the turn and this out of line potbet is almost always a missed draw with these guys. a made and (lke a 6) would probadly bet lower. Shoving has no fold equity since he has only a few dollars behind</font>
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

when villians weakbet (call reraise), weakbet, PSB on the river it is not a bluff often enough to call with A high IMO.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

I dont mind the flop raise, but the weak lead on the turn is your cue to dump.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

Fold on turn, if he has a draw so be it, you can find a better spot to get the money in. If you are making those turn and river calls often I think you are losing lots of money in these situations as opposed to the few times when villian is bluffing.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

I must note here that the "bet pot with missed draw line" comes along quite often on this site
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

[ QUOTE ]
I must note here that the "bet pot with missed draw line" comes along quite often on this site

[/ QUOTE ]He didn't play this anything like a draw though. There's no way a marginally weak-tight opponent leads that turn with a draw. This line is almost always top pair or 2 pair.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

We are not in the business of finding better spots, only +EV spots. Not trying to be pedantic; it makes a big difference in the long run.

this is not a +EV spot (we have 6 outs to get into a RIO situation) so fold turn.
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

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I dont mind the flop raise, but the weak lead on the turn is your cue to dump.

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Old 05-13-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

FOLD THE TURN PLEASE and wtf river call, you totally talked yourself into that [censored] son. I dont care if you were right, that is just horrible, you beat nothing.

btw spot on with the french thing. sacre bleu
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: AK on 50nl, overplayed or standard?

As for results, Villain indeed had a flushdraw!

Th2h for a rivered bottom pair. He probadly would have done the same thing if another nonheart rivercard came, but on second thought I think I overplayed AK here indeed.

Now imagine I had 55 taking the exact same line, thoughts on that?
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