Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-30-2007, 07:09 PM
jmremote jmremote is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 231
Default 50NL - Did I get max value?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $67.50
UTG+1: $41.40
CO: $52.50
Hero: $110.40
SB: $97.75
BB: $29.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($18.75, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, CO calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($38.75, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $70.75
<font color="#ffffff">CO mucks Kh Jh</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-30-2007, 07:28 PM
derosnec derosnec is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: mmmmm chickfila
Posts: 6,159
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

this is one of those spots on the river where he is either going to call your or not, regardless of your bet size. i say that for several reasons:

a) he called your raise on a dry flop, so he likely has a king or AA, or who knows maybe even QQ at these bizarro stakes,

b) he called you on the turn, which means he is very likely to have a K or AA; i don't think he picked up a flush draw, because that means he would have continued on the flop with Ax clubs or Qx clubs, which I just can't see him doing;

c) on the river he probably doesn't give you credit for a flush, given your flop raise; so he either likes his hand or he doesn't. i think he likes it. and when they like their hand for 3 streets at these stakes (and when pot is big) i would just push the river because he is rarely folding for a few bucks more here.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-30-2007, 07:35 PM
Jihad Jihad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ululating
Posts: 3,103
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

Although my first inclination is to tell you to make a real raise on the flop, your bet sizing was good enough that (unless I'm reading wrong) he has $33.50 left and a $39 pot. Easy shove in this situation when AI &lt; PSB. Your bet looks soooooooooo much like you want a call, you really only probably get called by a K or BD flush.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-30-2007, 07:39 PM
Machavelli Machavelli is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: DC
Posts: 465
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

raise more on the flop - 9. Bet 13 on the turn. As played bet 22 on the river.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-30-2007, 07:42 PM
derosnec derosnec is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: mmmmm chickfila
Posts: 6,159
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

yeah i think if he is going to raise that flop (and i'm not sure if he should raise it since it is so dry), then he should raise more because either villain is coming along or he isn't regardless of raise size (he either has a hand or he doesn't).
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-30-2007, 08:25 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 906
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

I'd say bet just a smidgen more on flop and turn -- not really for to get the smidgen more of value, but so that your river push can more reasonably be called by more hands.

Against the right villain, these bets mean "I'm weak" and might induce them to do something silly. If so, great. On the other hand, raise more and you're saying "go away" to the right villain. You don't provide a read. With a monster, and no read, I always go with the heftier bet. One of the best lines from NLTAP went something like "when in doubt, generally bet more rather than less."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-30-2007, 08:28 PM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: mano a mano
Posts: 9,235
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

[ QUOTE ]
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

lol
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:07 AM
mrw8419 mrw8419 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 379
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

More on flop, so that you can get all in. I'd shove the river his turn call looks like a weak k trying to get to showdown and there is a good chance he won't be able to get away from it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:21 AM
jumbojacks jumbojacks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 853
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

Yeah, you did, in a way. If you had raise the flop any bigger, shoved river, or made any really big bets I would have instamucked. Thanks to tilt and when the K hit I realized what a terrible card that was for me, I still called you down. You bet enough for me to tilt call all 3 streets. A better line would have been to call flop/turn and shoved river. It makes your hand look more like a Kx than a boat.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:22 AM
jezmond jezmond is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 31
Default Re: 50NL - Did I get max value?

Doesn't it depend on the player? Seems like he's got a big king, surely a shove on the river would make him curious.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.