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View Poll Results: If HR4411 does pass, will you continue to play online when/if ways around the law prevail? | |||
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40 | 78.43% |
No |
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11 | 21.57% |
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Question #1.
A trolley is coming down a track, and it's going to run over and kill five people if it continues. A person standing next to a track can flip a switch and turn the trolley onto a side track where it will kill one but save the five. Do you flip the switch and kill one to save the five? Question #2. A nurse comes up to a doctor and says "Doctor we've got five patients in critical care; each one needs an organ to survive. We do not have time to send out for organs, but a healthy person just walked into the hospital. We can take his organs and save the five. Is that OK?" |
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#2 is obvious. If you flip the switch in #1, you have committed murder. Mitigating circumstances? Perhaps. But murder nonetheless.
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1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok.
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I assume the person making the decision would have no fear of getting caught?
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1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] |
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1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] How so? What's the difference between the two? |
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[ QUOTE ] 1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] How so? What's the difference between the two? [/ QUOTE ] I'd start from the other way round. I can't see any similarity between the two. What similarities do you see? chez |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] How so? What's the difference between the two? [/ QUOTE ] I'd start from the other way round. I can't see any similarity between the two. What similarities do you see? [/ QUOTE ] In both cases you are choosing to sacrifice one to save five. Is it really that difficult to figure out? In both cases you are killing someone who, without your intervention, would otherwise remain alive. Get it now? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] How so? What's the difference between the two? [/ QUOTE ] I'd start from the other way round. I can't see any similarity between the two. What similarities do you see? [/ QUOTE ] In both cases you are choosing to sacrifice one to save five. Is it really that difficult to figure out? In both cases you are killing someone who, without your intervention, would otherwise remain alive. Get it now? [/ QUOTE ] The meta-type consquences of the two are very different. If people knew that, when they entered a hospital, there was a chance Doctors would just kill you for your organs, people would be less likely to enter hospitals, which would more than compesate for the gain in lives in these rarer circumstances. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1) is a fairly easy flip the switch. 2) is a stunningly easy not ok. [/ QUOTE ] How so? What's the difference between the two? [/ QUOTE ] I'd start from the other way round. I can't see any similarity between the two. What similarities do you see? [/ QUOTE ] In both cases you are choosing to sacrifice one to save five. Is it really that difficult to figure out? In both cases you are killing someone who, without your intervention, would otherwise remain alive. Get it now? [/ QUOTE ] but its a morality problem not a maximise existence problem. and morally the two situations aren't remotely similar as far as I can see. So morally in which way do you think they are similar? chez |
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