full of indecision

[Alex424]

UB 2/4 10 players

Hero UTG2 A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain unknown in SB

I'm new to table, never played villain before which made this harder. I stumbled through this hand and not sure if i played it brilliantly or dreadfully.

Pre-flop:

Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, villain calls, everybody else folds

Flop (board: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

villain bets $2. hero calls.

Turn (board: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]):

villain bets $4. hero raises to $8. villain
calls.

River (board: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

villain checks. hero bets $4. villain calls.

[TripleH68]

Hero is getting 6:1 minus rake on the flop call. I peel here too and often wonder if it is correct in this small pot.

I don't like the raise on the turn. If villain 3-bets the turn you have to call...and what hand is he folding? So raising does not improve your chances of winning this pot.

[tewall]

Raising the turn seems fine to me. Even if villain never folded a worse hand, raising would still be good if villain is less likely to 3 bet or bet the river when raised than hero is to hit one of his outs, which seems likely to me. That is, I don't think most players would be more likely than 1 in 3 to 3 bet or bet the river in this situation. Assuming no more bets come from villain, hero makes more when he hits an out, and loses the same when he doesn't. Plus villain might fold a small pair.

[PunchOut]

nh

[NedForrest]

I dont think there s that much fold equity there. I would just call the turn and fold on the river UI. You re better off making things cheap for yourself than trying to outplay people who dont fold. Bluff less, value bet more [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[revlwb]

I fold on the flop bet. You are fighting too much for this small pot. Don't like the raise on the turn, but you have to call there.

[tewall]

You can't fold every time you raise pre-flop, miss the flop, and get bet into. You'd get killed.

[goofball]

If you think there's a chance your hand is best right now then th turn raise is good.

[Harv72b]

I usually raise the flop here, but I'll sometimes flat call. Generally I'd rather pop the flop & take a free card when I'm called, depending of course on the opponent.

This seems like the ideal spot to try a turn semibluff raise. Heads up pot, not a very drawy flop, so I think it's very believable that you'd slowplay an overpair to the turn...this gains you some fold equity. Tack on the drawing equity you have with two overs + a flush draw, and I like it a lot. Tack on the free showdown unimproved when your hand actually is going to be ahead every so often and I love it.

Good value bet on the end, too. Nice hand.

[HoneyBadger]

I like the hand. I'd raise the flop. You might still have the best hand. Potential free card if you want it, altough you should hardly ever take it, but moreso possible extra fold equity on a turn bet with outs. He's just testing if you have AK/AQ, tell him you have an overpair. But you should do different things here. So calling is fine too. no way in hell would I fold two strong overcards with a bdfd on a 863r board.

And imho thewall is right: you can't just fold everytime you're donked on the flop. they know you raise early and probably either hold highcards or an overpair, they are the blind and could've hit anything, so they bet and test. If you always fold highcards here, but only raise overpairs it becomes a little easy for them. Always bet, and fold when raised or called and UI.

(I am very much in agreement with Harv)