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Old 01-06-2007, 05:19 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default A freeroll

There was some confusion the other day as to what a freeroll was. This is a freeroll:

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Brian is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Brian raises</font>, CO calls with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Button calls with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Brian bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Brian bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, Brian folds, CO calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (13BB, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 15BB
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:20 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: A freeroll

How is this a freeroll? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Make your hand KJ and then you have a freeroll.

Freeroll = Can't lose, probably chop, might win. You guys are both drawing dead on 4th street. Give someone KJ and they will probably chop but a heart will give the button the win. He would be in a freerolling position in that case.
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:25 PM
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How is this a freeroll? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Make your hand KJ and then you have a freeroll.

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You assume too much, grasshopper. Look at the hand, again, maybe a little more closely this time.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: A freeroll

Make CO's hand KJ and then button is freerolling him. As is, button is just crushing him.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: A freeroll

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How is this a freeroll? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Make your hand KJ and then you have a freeroll.

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You assume too much, grasshopper. Look at the hand, again, maybe a little more closely this time.

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I just want to take a moment to chuckle because shill just got called grasshopper...

... now I'm looking at the hand more closely, because unless boz is on drugs, this should be cool.

edit: still don't see it -- boz must be on drugs, and thanks shill...
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: A freeroll

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edit: still don't see it -- boz must be on drugs, and thanks shill...

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Yep, my error. I didn't know that the hands had to be tied with only one drawing to a win (per the SSHE def'n), I thought it was enough that the freeroller couldn't be drawn out on.

Still closer than yours, DM. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: A freeroll

fwiw, the value bet on the end was solid.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:02 PM
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Still closer than yours, DM. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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You mean closer than my completely misunderstanding the term? Yeah, that's not too hard, is it?
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: A freeroll

I agree with shillx. Maybe I'm retarded today, but yes, 2/3 players are dd at the turn. Don't see any freeroll.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: A freeroll

I agree this is not a freeroll as Button has the hand won.

Freerolling is when two guys have the exact same hand, but one has outs to win outright

This is freerolling

SB has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

On the turn the board is
2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB is freerolling.
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