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Old 12-07-2006, 03:32 AM
Murd0c Murd0c is offline
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Here's the tournament's HH in the PXF viewer:
http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/pxf?...1207_021409.txt

The hand I wasn't sure about was this one.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

BB (t60720)
UTG (t35751)
MP (t84798)
Button (t56931)
Hero (t31800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t8000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t31700</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t23700.

I had just pushed a few hands ago w/ K3o because I was short stacked and sucked out on this same guy's AK. The hand just before this he busted a short stack who re-pushed over his 3x BB raise. He had AQ that hand. This hand he raised 4x which I can't remember him doing before this time.

Is this a bad repush? Should I have done something different like a stop'n'go?

I can't see folding here.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:35 AM
JoseGonzlez JoseGonzlez is offline
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Default Re: $4/180: 5 left

i would not fold 88 to one raise 5 handed.

I think a repush still has some fold equity so you probably played it fine.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:51 AM
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If he's now upping his raises as you said you'd not seen him do it before, he's probably trying to protect his hands a little bit more now due to your suckout, I would put him on AJ-AK... the re-push was valid as he's going to be on his backfoot and had only bet 10% of his stack, even if he calls you, you're still a slight fav. to win

I'd never fold 88 in a short handed and flat calling would mean you'd open yourself to a continuation bet (which he'd be obliged to do) and being forced off the hand if the flop was scary.

You played it right, got your money in with probably the best hand and a chance to either double up or gaining a 25% increase in your stack if he folds.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:59 AM
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I'd never fold 88 in a short handed and flat calling would mean you'd open yourself to a continuation bet (which he'd be obliged to do) and being forced off the hand if the flop was scary.


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Since Hero is in the SB and acts first on the flop he can stop-n-go, which takes away a CB from villain. That being said, I think pushing preflop is the right play.

Andy
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:42 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Villains raising range: 66+, AT+, A8s+, KQ, KJs+

Villains calling range: 88+, AJ+, AJs+, KQs

A push is correct, A stop and go sounds like a good idea too.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:00 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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I think that your push was perfect.

I don't like a stop and go here at all. I think a stop and go is a lot better when you hold an KQ type hand than a pocket pair. As a stop and go would allow him to play closer to perfectly postflop as he will be able to decide what to do with the bulk of his chips after he sees if he hits the flop or not.

Yes, a SNG will allow you to sometimes fold the villain off of a higher pocket pair on an A high flop but the downside of losing fold equity when the villain has A8s or losing equity when he is calling preflop with AJ and then folding a missed flop make the SNG a bad play.

Your push was perfect and standard.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:21 AM
Murd0c Murd0c is offline
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I thought the idea of a stop and go was to do it with mid pairs since big non-pair hands like AK,AQ,AJ will have to see 5 cards to get full value from their hand and since your pushing the flop, instead of pre-flop they won't have those five cards.


On a side note I just noticed my PUFF factor for the tournament was 15 so go me!
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:49 PM
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Not sure I agree with this.

His push is giving villain about 2:1, so there's only fold equity if this is really a steal...and even then its borderline.

A sng will have more fold equity, and I think is generally better with low-to-mid pocket pairs (which benefit by not seeing the turn and river) as opposed to KQ type hands (which benefit from seeing those last two cards).

In fact if his stack was just a tiny, tiny bit smaller (eliminating whatever pre-flop fold equity he may have here), I'd say that this was almost a textbox sng situation.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: $4/180: 5 left

standard
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: $4/180: 5 left

PUSH, get called by A9o, lose flip, post on 2p2. Standard.


I'm folding this like never ever ever to a single raiser 5 handed. Push is fine, perfect actually.
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