tough decision

[furfur]

30 rebuy tourney on UB. 37 left out of 170. blinds 1k,2k w/ 200 ante. you have 60k. villain has 40k. folded to you in cutoff with k,5d. Raise to 6k(probably wrong). Villain in small blind calls. He has been relatively loose and agressive, contesting many pots. Called my preflop raise earlier and pushed into me on the flop.

Flop: 5c, 6c, 3d. Pot contains 17 k. Villain pushes 34 k.

Your move?!?

[mornelth]

1) Throw up
2) A pair with an overcard + Backdoor FD + possibility of SnG makes this a call for me...

[Sam T.]

1) Throw up.
2) Say, "I wish that six were a diamond" three times. If it works, instacall.
3) If it doesn't...think about what you would do if you bust. Could you use the extra sleep?

Wait, just saw the read. Instacall.

[namespace]

1) Throw up
2) Wish that you didn't raise a LAG player with K2s who contests many pots.
3) Fold

You looked to steal something cheaply and it didn't work.
The villian probably has a read on you since you tangled before. I think he could be easily trapping you with a big pair knowing you'll throw out a c-bet.

[futuredoc85]

[ QUOTE ]
1) Throw up
2) Wish that you didn't raise a LAG player with K2s who contests many pots.
3) Fold

You looked to steal something cheaply and it didn't work.
The villian probably has a read on you since you tangled before. I think he could be easily trapping you with a big pair knowing you'll throw out a c-bet.

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if villain pushed him out of a pot like this before couldnt his read be that hero will fold to resistance on a rag flop in a raised pot?

[FortunaMaximus]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1) Throw up
2) Wish that you didn't raise a LAG player with K2s who contests many pots.
3) Fold

You looked to steal something cheaply and it didn't work.
The villian probably has a read on you since you tangled before. I think he could be easily trapping you with a big pair knowing you'll throw out a c-bet.

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if villain pushed him out of a pot like this before couldnt his read be that hero will fold to resistance on a rag flop in a raised pot?

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Yup. Depends on what he's doing it with though. Fairly thin spot, but worth a call if you've got Villain's range sick cold and it'll build a huge stack.

Spew might end up three tables over if you're wrong, but, hey, that's the nature of the game.

Edit: And it's an instant gearshift to < 10BB, however, that's time enough to pushbot.

[AceLuby]

[ QUOTE ]
1) Throw up
2) Wish that you didn't raise a LAG player with K2s who contests many pots.
3) Fold

You looked to steal something cheaply and it didn't work.
The villian probably has a read on you since you tangled before. I think he could be easily trapping you with a big pair knowing you'll throw out a c-bet.

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First it was K5s and raising that PF is a standard steal. Second, he isn't trapping w/ a big pair, because if he knew you would c-bet he would have c/r. My guess is a weak overpair, like 77-99, or two high cards. Now you are getting 3:2 on your money for 2/3 of your stack w/ a player that is a LAG and could be doing this w/ bottom pair as easily as 77. Given the read I think this is a call and really looks like a SNG, though I don't know why he would do that here w/ his stack.

Edit: forgot to put overs w/ a flush draw

[namespace]

Unless I think the villian is a complete donkey or we are very early in the tournament, I fold here.

It's a scary flop, middle pair is super low, I don't mind being outplayed in this situation.

However, I'm sure that I'll be doubling off him next time I raise into him from the button. With that said, I'm not too anxious to gamble with someone I know I can beat later.

[FortunaMaximus]

Same reasoning players are leaning towards a call here, to build a gigastack.

This should be a FD with overs quite a bit, and, well, the pot odds justify it still, as you're leading, and your K might be a better high card.

So it's practically a coinflip. If you're right and win the race, you've got a 100k stack and one less opponent.

If you lose, you've got ~20k and you're still in the tournament, albeit on life support.

[furfur]

My reasoning was that he was: a)1.5-1.7:1 pot odds; b)LAG, c)very broad hand range in that spot given his LAGness. I called. He turned over a,7 and hit a 4 on the river! "That's poker."