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Old 10-23-2006, 02:52 AM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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Default You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

Against a standard not-amazing-yet-still-a-winner tag player, what % of the time should we be doing THIS:


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MP ($979.50)
Hero ($2036.89)
Button ($3712.82)
SB ($2982.33)
BB ($456.25)
UTG ($1084)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $35, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($85) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $180</font>



Assuming we take a freecard frequently, I think its close to 100% as long as we dont get semi-bluff-reraised very often ....
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

I like, and i admit i'd almost never do this.
Probably makes you very hard to play and it's got good shania+FE.
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

i think this is a pf fold since he is opening utg. but on the flop it depends on his c-bet %. if it is close to 100% and u have a decent image, i think u can show a profit here. i also guess if u do this often enough u can show a profit with a pf call here, though playing so aggro post you'd probably have to render ur game pretty significantly - though i don't know how u play so i dunno how it currently is.
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:59 AM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

Yea this is probably better if he raised in mp or the co.. since the wider his range, the more air (or low pps or whatever) I fold. These guys I think cbet a very very high % b/c the first hand they think that I have is probably a low pp.
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

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I think its close to 100% as long as we dont get semi-bluff-reraised very often ....

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Definitely. We also don't usually get re-raised, even by huge hands, on this board.
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

i do this like always at high stakes nl
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

I kind of wished this wasn't posted, I think pretty much no one does this at 400 and not even too often at 600.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

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i do this like always at high stakes nl

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You are soooo lame dude.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

The tag has to be a little slow if you intend on doing this everytime.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: You f\'in sstakes grinders prolly never do dis

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The tag has to be a little slow if you intend on doing this everytime.

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lol i pull this [censored] all the time. hard for them to call with even TPGK

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Well not if you do it all the time...

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Huge % of the time they dont have toppair good kicker or better. Also, its like, if you do this every time, they might be a bit slow, and they might suspect somethin is up, but to that you reply, "So what chuu gonna do about it?!?"

Dont forget that often when they decide to call your semi bluff, (which isnt very often), you will still outdraw them. Othertimes when they think you are FOS, you will actaully have something like QK or a set, so they will be spewin dem chips.
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