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i dont get clarkmeistered
i had no read at this moment. maybe loose, passive, fishy (actually i have 21 hands on him and he is a big fish - maybe not as big as me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
Cryptologic Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $2/$4 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="green">Hero raises?</font> can i really bring a better hand (maybe even a spade??) to fold? maybe 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]; 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? fold the river like smoove? or just call? |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
Loose passives call down -don't try to bluff raise them off pots.
Do this against a known someone with a low WTSD%. With a raise you are betting 2BB to win 5BB and need to have someone fold around 23% of the time to make it worth you while. I would say most of the time this is just spew. But against a specific this might work, the one outlined is not the opponent. |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
Call the river. He is bluffing often enough to make it worthwhile, but I doubt a better hand is folding (maybe 67 no spade) and any worse hand is definitely folding. His hand range is weighted too heavily towards flushes to warrant a bluff.
You are risking 1 BB to win 5 BB if you raise (it is a marginal 1BB more than calling, which is going in regardless). I don't think there are enough better hands he folds because your hand is too strong relative to the kind of hands that do fold. |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
I would also just call. I'm sure as hell not gonna fold in that spot again anytime soon!
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
getting 5:1 I don't think you are good often enough against a loose passive.
You have to be good around 17% of the time. True |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
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getting 5:1 I don't think you are good often enough against a loose passive. You have to be good around 17% of the time. True [/ QUOTE ] Even loose passives bluff at rivers like this, because they think that they would fold to a bet there so you should to. If he was bluffing he will stomp his feet and demand to know how you can call with that. |
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Re: sults
yeah, i believe i f'ed this one up. i should have called.
in the heat of the moment, i thought two things: this player could be bad enough to pay me off with a worse hand (he could be bluffing and wants to know what i raise with - they always want to see your cards) and maybe, maybe he fold a babyflush (3-5). results: <font color="white"> villain calls and shows Qd7s and carries the BBs away</font> |
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Re: sults
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maybe loose, passive, fishy [/ QUOTE ] call>fold>raise? cant bluff loose and passive of a flush :/ no matter what his kicker is a flush is a flush |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
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getting 5:1 I don't think you are good often enough against a loose passive. You have to be good around 17% of the time. True [/ QUOTE ] I messed the odds up this is correct |
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Re: i dont get clarkmeistered
Looks pretty poor when both the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are on the board. I think a fishy, and a not so fishy, villain will definately call when he has the flush.
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