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View Poll Results: Eugeneel vs PhilHellmuth | |||
PHIL HELLMUTH | 35 | 36.84% | |
EUGENEEL | 60 | 63.16% | |
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Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
<font color="blue">Hero is fairly new to the table and has no reads. Hero also hasn't done anything remarkable at the table yet.</font>
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $147.15 UTG+1: $68.20 CO: $124.60 Button: $37.50 SB: $96.20 Hero: $118.15 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, SB folds. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, CO calls. River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($36, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $111.15 (all-in)</font>.... |
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
The answer is how often they have a set + 10%
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
Either he has diamonds (obviously he never calls) or a marginal K (almost 100% not to call) or he slowplayed something and he's calling (extremely rare). I don't think this works 10% of the time, he has to "have a read" and go with it, which most just won't do.
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
Given the action and the board it's hard to put villian on a second best hand good enough to call this. I think you lose the decent K's that'll call 25 almost all the time here.
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
Definately less than 10% of the time on this board and with the action. I'd put him on a King-Jack or similar marginal King. If he's willing to get stacked with top pair, sweet.
Only way I see him calling without a set is if he has a King and he thinks you're going all in on a busted flush draw or something. |
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
this brings up a point that I have noticed playing SSNL
sometimes, I just throw out the whole pot size and fractions. I will just push if the villian is capable of calling. Sure, they fold more often than not, but the ev of them potentially calling a push outweighs the routine 1/3 pot size value bet and call. Of course, this is heavily PLAYER DEPENDENT. oh yeah...i agree with the earlier poster who said only a set would call you here. I think 2 pair hands, which sometimes call, would be too smallish for typical villian to risk it. |
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
at nl100 ive noticed that they think a push into a medium/small pot is usually a bluff so it gets called a bit more often. at 25 and 50 its usually for value though.
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
If you aren't going to VB, I think a C/R all-in is better than open push. What hand is calling your open push that isn't value betting the river when checked to, and then calling your push? There are many hands that will be when checked to (missed draws) you can get value from.
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
he showed no aggression the entire hand, what makes you think he calls here enough to make you more then a value bet would?
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Re: Overbet push with nuts: how often is this called?
I don't really like this push..
Villain hasn't shown any strength... As others have already stated, he's not calling with less than a set, and given the action, I don't see that as a very likely scenario. I probably bet 1/2 pot here hoping to get paid off by a curious top pair |
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