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3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
live 3/6 full table. The SB is a very loose plyer who even mentions that he pretty much only plays NL.
Im in MP and look down and find pocket AA. One limps in front of me. I raise, SB calls, BB calls, Limper calls. Flop comes 7 5 5 rainbow. SB bets, BB folds, limper calls, I reraise SB makes it 3 bets, Limper calls I think for a second then call. Turn comes a blank and SB bets. At this point I know he has a five and possibly sevens full. Disgusted, I muck my hand limper calls. River is an Ace. SB bets, limper folds. After the hand SB says he had a 5. I know this is results oriented thinking but the pot was fairly large at that point, should I have called one more bet to see the river? This is one of the few times I have actually laid down aces in limit without seeing the river. |
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
This is pretty read-dependant, but against a bad player I think you'll see a low pocket pair or A7 enough times here to warrant a call down. If it was a really passive opponent then I might be more willing to give them credit for the 5.
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
I'd want to make it to showdown, given two things: limper is subsidizing, and SB chose not to slowplay on a dead board. As far as your case, it all depends on whether you are more than (1 - 2BB/(size of pot at showdown)) confident in your read. I can think of some players I'd make this fold against, but few in number.
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
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I know this is results oriented thinking but the pot was fairly large at that point, should I have called one more bet to see the river? [/ QUOTE ] If you mean calling the turn and folding the river, you don't have those odds (23:1 I believe). But, I wouldn't fold the turn and would have called down. 88, 99, TT, JJ, A7, and even 66 can be played this way. Haupt_234 |
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
i think the flop should be capped, then, go into calling mode. the thing is, many play two big cards the same as two aces (or other big pp). consequently, a 6,8 should (in my view) be played fast to attempt to fold those big (unpaired) cards. it is VERY unlikely that anybody is ever going to fold a big pair to unseen trip 5s. a thinking player is best to have as an opponent ('cause he/she might be fooled)(and not so good for an opponent if he/she outthinks hero). however, how many thinking players are playing small stakes? nonetheless, the player with two big cards WILL likely fold to someone who has shown real strength if they don't pair. here, i really don't think i would have been capable of folding a,a 'cause there's way too many hands opponent could have that i could beat....(such as, 8,8-9,9-10,10 etc.)
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
At the very least call down on the turn. The pot is pretty big for the times you are ahead vs. the times you need to draw to a four outer.
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Re: 3/6 live, laying down aces, bad fold?
[ QUOTE ]
This is pretty read-dependant, but against a bad player I think you'll see a low pocket pair or A7 enough times here to warrant a call down. If it was a really passive opponent then I might be more willing to give them credit for the 5. [/ QUOTE ] He was pretty passive the whole session. He was obviously not very comfortable playing limit. He Rarely showed any aggression and when he did he had the goods. Also he lit up like a Christmas tree when the flop came (his expression body language). I was dead positive he at least had trips. Again, This is a very rare fold for me. My usual tact in Limit is, if you beat my aces, you beat my aces but I am going to showdown with them. |
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