PokerFink's 2007 NFC Rankings (Week 4)

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Kyro,

I really can't figure out how your rankings work if they include MOV. Having anyone above Dallas is just plain silly.

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Seattle had a big win this week. They were saved by Alex Smith going down and Trent Dilfer looking like he retired in 2005 and just figured he could pick up a pay check for a few years before anyone noticed.

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Uh Alex Smith is bad, and I doubt he would have done signifigantly better than Dilfer. Smith had 6 turnovers in the first four games and in his first series of the the SEA game he got squished for a loss of 10 and went 0-1. Dilfer did about what Smith had averaged in the first four games while getting sacked/hit on every play. The SF offensive line was horrible and the Hawks have the ability to put a lot of pressure on the QB. They were not saved.

[Spellmen]

I agree with this, and I'm a hardcore Niners fan. I actually initially thought brining in Dilfer might give the offense a little spark, but I guess he packed it in when he won the super bowl. The line play has been dreadful. Smith wasn't making plays to Davis and teh receivers, and teams are keying in on Gore. I'm absolutely sick about trading that pick away to the Pats now. I was cautiously optimistic about this season, didn't think the team was a lock for the WC like some did, but this level of play has been atrocious. This team should be 0-4 right now

Chargers, prs to be firing Norv Turner to let us have him back. Otherwise, please DIAGF.

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Seattle had a big win this week. They were saved by Alex Smith going down and Trent Dilfer looking like he retired in 2005 and just figured he could pick up a pay check for a few years before anyone noticed.

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Uh Alex Smith is bad, and I doubt he would have done signifigantly better than Dilfer. Smith had 6 turnovers in the first four games and in his first series of the the SEA game he got squished for a loss of 10 and went 0-1. Dilfer did about what Smith had averaged in the first four games while getting sacked/hit on every play. The SF offensive line was horrible and the Hawks have the ability to put a lot of pressure on the QB. They were not saved.

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Where did you get he turned the ball over 6 times this year. He threw 1 pick this year for an INT against Pittsburgh and has had 0 fumbles all year.

Honestly I think he's regressed this year. It doesn't help that the o-line especially Larry Allen has been terrible so far. I don't think he's significantly better or worse than Dilfer right now I just think Seattle has played well and Dilfer hasn't taken a snap in years. Doesn't help that VD was out as well.

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Where did you get he turned the ball over 6 times this year. He threw 1 pick this year for an INT against Pittsburgh and has had 0 fumbles all year.

Honestly I think he's regressed this year. It doesn't help that the o-line especially Larry Allen has been terrible so far. I don't think he's significantly better or worse than Dilfer right now I just think Seattle has played well and Dilfer hasn't taken a snap in years. Doesn't help that VD was out as well.

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The receivers are also terrible. Did you see the Jackson drop. It went through his hands. Neither hand touched the ball. Jackson lead the league in drops last year with 11. And he's the best SF receiver. Davis will never be a good as Eric Johnson.
With that line and those receivers Montana would look terrible.

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Where did you get he turned the ball over 6 times this year. He threw 1 pick this year for an INT against Pittsburgh and has had 0 fumbles all year.


[/ QUOTE ] I guess I read the numbers off wrong, but he did lose a fumble in each of the first 2 games + had a pick in a third. As others have said he has no help so it's hard to tell if he sucks, but he certainly isn't performing at all.

http://www.nfl.com/players/alexsmith...e?id=SMI031126

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Here are the rest of the comments.

<font color="Blue"> 3. SEATTLE (3-1) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: Kudos to CB Marcus Trufant, who had a great game this week with a pair of picks and four credited pass defenses. The 2003 first round pick has developed into a strong player, which I didn't think would happen after watching him get toasted repeatedly in his first two years. Trufant is the player Terrell Owens burned for a touchdown in the sharpie incident, but he's come a long way since then. NEXT: @ Pittsburgh.

<font color="Blue"> 4. TAMPA BAY (3-1) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: Tampa can survive the loss of Cadillac, who's overrated anyway. But as Osi Umenyiora proved this week, losing your left tackle can be disastrous. Luke Petigue is not the same caliber as Tra Thomas, but the new starting left tackle is Who-Dat Anthony Davis. NEXT: @ Indianapolis.

<font color="Blue"> 7. DETROIT (3-1) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: Quick, who leads the league in passing yards? The unstoppable Tom Brady? The red hot Tony Romo? The revived Brett Favre? The incomparable Peyton Manning? Nope. Jon Kitna, ftw. (Kitna ranks 7th in DPAR behind those four, Palmer and Hasselbeck). NEXT: @ Washington.

<font color="Blue"> 8. NEW YORK (2-2) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: It's been a tale of two seasons so far for New York. Blowout losses to the Cowboys and Packers followed by a first half pounding by the Skins. Since then, the Giants have played six fantastic quarters, destroying the Skins in the second half and sacking the Eagles like York at the hands of William Wallace. NEXT: vs. New York Jets.

<font color="Blue"> 11. SAN FRANCISCO (2-2) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: I imagine Trent Dilfer reacted somewhat like Willie Beamen in Any Given Sunday: "What? I'm going in? Are you serious?" Dilfer was abysmal, completing just 12 of 33 passes (36%) for 128 yards (3.9ypa) while taking five sacks and tossing two picks. No matter how you slice it - rushing, passing, receiving, Smith, Dilfer - the Niners offense is terrible. And now they're without Smith and TE Vernon Davis, and to top it off, the Ravens are coming to town. NEXT: vs. Baltimore.

<font color="Blue"> 12. MINNESOTA (1-3) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: According to the media, the key to NFL success is on the ground. You must run the ball and stop the run to be successful. Why? Because most of the media played the game in the 70's, when the NFL was a run-first league. Today, passing the football and stopping the pass are the keys to success. The Vikings prove this. Their impenetrable, record-setting run defense is back - last year the Vikings set a record with 2.76 adjusted line yards against (league average is about 4.2). They lead the league again this year with 2.74 ALY against. On offense, they have a strong rushing attack (ranked 11th) with stud rookie Adrian Peterson. So why is Minnesota 1-3? They can't pass the ball (26th) and they can't stop the pass (20th). NEXT: Bye.

<font color="Blue"> 13. CHICAGO (1-3) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: Mike Brown, safety, out for season. Kevin Payne, safety, out for season. Nathan Vasher, cornerback, doubtful. Charles Tillman, cornerback, questionable. Lance Briggs, linebacker, questionable. It's not hard to figure out why the Chicago pass defense, ranked 2nd in the NFL last year, ranks 18th this year. NEXT: @ Green Bay.

<font color="Blue"> 14. ATLANTA (1-3) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: For years, supporters of Michael Vick asked whether the problem with the Atlanta passing attack was the receivers and not Vick. Well so far, Joey Harrington is 8th in the NFL with 22.2 DPAR. How many times did Vick accumulate that much value passing? That would be once, in 2002. In fact, in six years, Vick only had a positive value twice, meaning in four out of six years he was below replacement value. Examples of replacement value: Brooks Bollinger, Mike McMahon, Anthony Wright, Rick Mirer, Tim Couch. NEXT: @ Tennessee.

<font color="Blue"> 15. NEW ORLEANS (0-3) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: The Saints have had two weeks to correct their problems and realize that the three teams they lost to - Indy, Tampa and Tennessee - are all pretty darn good. NEXT: vs. Carolina.

<font color="Blue"> 16. ST. LOUIS (0-4) </font> <font color="red"> </font>: Wait, wait, wait. Gus Frerotte is still in the league? NEXT: vs. Arizona.