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Old 08-15-2007, 04:07 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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I guess this is a different spot, but the times I've seen people stack off with JJ have been in this spot that you are describing. Not sure if it was for 250 BBs, but it was def. for 150+.

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Besides, 250 BBs is only about 50 NYC BBs, isn't it? I'm always a little unsure of the conversion rate.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:12 PM
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I guess this is a different spot, but the times I've seen people stack off with JJ have been in this spot that you are describing. Not sure if it was for 250 BBs, but it was def. for 150+.

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Besides, 250 BBs is only about 50 NYC BBs, isn't it? I'm always a little unsure of the conversion rate.

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normally this is the case because there is usually a straddle or a double straddle--but in this case, there was not. And I don't like losing 50k pots preflop with QQ, even if there was a straddle in the hand.

Thanks for the advice on the hands, guys, I guess I wasn't too much of a donkey in the hand, even sure I sure as hell felt like one.

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Old 08-15-2007, 04:13 PM
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you realize a back raise is not the same as a limp-reraise, right?

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Hmm. I've got a friend who uses backraise to mean limp-reraise, and that's the only time I've heard that term used.


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the vast majority of the time that i have heard the term used it was used to mean limp-reraise (and i think most of those times it was dlpnyc saying it). and david himself used it that way on monday (though afterwards we all agreed that it'd be a better term if it meant flatting a raise and then 4betting). regardless of how it used to be used, let's all agree to stop using it to mean LRR and instead only for the other thing.

as for the hand, i like the plan of a commitment raise then calling, especially if he's been squeezing more than normal.

results please?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:16 PM
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A back raise is flatting an initial raise then 4-betting it. I mistakenly used it the other day, but what I meant was the above definition.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:27 PM
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results please?

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he had AK and I held.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:37 AM
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how on earth could you possibly be concerned about anyone in this hand besides the original raiser and the
re-raiser?????????
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