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Re: Post UR Snow
I should have kept one of the 7s and drawn 1 going into the 2nd draw, but it worked out anyway. I need to snow better, blah.
PokerStars Game #7179779402: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/11/26 - 03:06:06 (ET) Table 'Gisela' 6-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 3: DazzleO ($35.80 in chips) Seat 4: Burdamania ($21 in chips) Seat 5: pjblcmp ($27.90 in chips) Seat 6: blitz962 ($18.25 in chips) pjblcmp: posts small blind $0.25 blitz962: posts big blind $0.50 U. Otta Fold: sits out *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to Burdamania [2c 7s Kd Jc 5c] DazzleO: folds Burdamania: raises $0.50 to $1 pjblcmp: calls $0.75 blitz962: folds U. Otta Fold leaves the table pjblcmp: discards 1 card Burdamania: discards 2 cards [Kd Jc] Dealt to Burdamania [7d 7h] pjblcmp: bets $0.50 Burdamania: raises $0.50 to $1 pjblcmp: calls $0.50 pjblcmp: discards 1 card Burdamania: discards 2 cards [7d 7h] Dealt to Burdamania [Qd Tc] pjblcmp: checks Burdamania: bets $1 pjblcmp: calls $1 pjblcmp: discards 1 card Burdamania: stands pat pjblcmp: checks Burdamania: bets $1 pjblcmp: folds Burdamania collected $6.20 from pot Burdamania: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $6.50 | Rake $0.30 Seat 3: DazzleO folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 4: Burdamania (button) collected ($6.20) Seat 5: pjblcmp (small blind) folded after the 3rd Draw Seat 6: blitz962 (big blind) folded before the Draw |
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Re: Post UR Snow
Wow this hand is really bad. What's with the raise after you catch 3 sevens? You're clearly behind but you aren't snowing since you then draw two again. Lucky for you your opponent is bad and checks to you again and then you don't really snow you just stay pat with a dog hand though I guess on the end he'd fold a better Q or maybe a J so the river "bluff" does have some merit.
-DeathDonkey |
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Re: Post UR Snow
[ QUOTE ]
I should have kept one of the 7s and drawn 1 going into the 2nd draw, but it worked out anyway. I need to snow better, blah. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's right either. There's a school of thought from some people that any time you see a handful of deuces (or sevens) that you should consider snowing. I feel that if I still have a playable draw early on in the hand (as you did), I should just continue the hand normally, noting that it may be harder for my opp to make his hand. It's only on the last draw (and betting round prior) that I will sometimes use this info and try something fancy if I haven't made my hand yet (and that "fancy" thing is just the same thing I would do if I made a hand). With that in mind, I would just call the second round bet and draw two again (the snowing alternative that I don't do is to raise and STAND PAT, not draw again). Also, at .5/1, this kind of FPS is totally unnecessary and may have contributed to your 150 BB downswing. |
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Re: Post UR Snow
This is pretty much a one every hundred or two hands situation, so if you think FPS is a constant thing of mine, it isn't. Feel free to watch me if you think I'm terrible btw, Burdamania on Stars.
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Re: Post UR Snow
I wouldn't know if FPS was a habit of yours. I was just pointing out that I don't feel like you need to bother with plays like this at .5/1. If it's not a habit, then it doesn't matter. This thread is only half-serious anyway. I also wanted to let you know how I would usually play the situation. It is nice to win a TD pot with QT, isn't it?
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Re: Post UR Snow
villain in this hand is multitabling and looks weak/tight. I pop preflop and immediately hate it, but I've done it so now I have to try to make the best of it.
when he draws 2 right off the bat I have to think that he's got good starters but really needs to hit. One orbit prior to this I took the a similar line with a pat number 2 that I was dealt initially. I'll reiterate that I hate my predraw raise. PokerStars Game #7204547659: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/11/27 - 21:46:13 (ET) *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to Guruman [Jc Kh 7c 2h 8d] Guruman: <font color="red">raises</font> $2 to $4 Mp: <font color="gray">folds</font> Victim: <font color="green">calls</font> $4 (on the button) Sb: <font color="gray">folds</font> bb: <font color="gray">folds</font> Guruman: discards 2 cards [Jc Kh] Dealt to Guruman [Th Qh] Victim: discards 2 cards Guruman: bets $2 Victim: <font color="green">calls</font> $2 Guruman: stands pat Victim: discards 2 cards Guruman: bets $4 Victim: <font color="green">calls</font> $4 Guruman: stands pat Victim: discards 1 card Guruman: bets $4 Victim: <font color="gray">folds</font> Guruman collected $22 from pot Guruman: doesn't show hand |
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Re: Post UR Snow
Berserk makes horrible spew snow after horrible spew button steal against Fossilman because hey, its fossilman:
Dealt to XXX [2d 3c Ad Kh 2h] Raven052: folds PimpingU2: folds XXX: raises $5 to $10 FossilMan: calls $8 cachews: folds FossilMan: discards 2 cards XXX: discards 1 card [Ad] Dealt to XXX[6c] FossilMan: checks XXX: bets $5 FossilMan: calls $5 FossilMan: discards 2 cards XXX: stands pat FossilMan: checks XXX: bets $10 FossilMan: folds XXX collected $34 from pot XXX: doesn't show hand |
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Re: Post UR Snow
Horrible snow:
PokerStars Game #7221157388: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/11/29 - 00:49:06 (ET) Table 'Lepus V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: oogee ($637.50 in chips) Seat 2: dangdokodang ($78 in chips) Seat 3: mgritter ($200 in chips) Seat 4: Raven052 ($493.50 in chips) Seat 5: CrimeThInc ($264 in chips) Seat 6: WilyTilt ($47 in chips) WilyTilt: posts small blind $2 oogee: posts big blind $5 *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to mgritter [7h 4d 8d 7c 8c] dangdokodang: folds mgritter: raises $5 to $10 Raven052: folds CrimeThInc: folds WilyTilt: folds oogee: calls $5 oogee: discards 2 cards mgritter: discards 1 card [8c] Dealt to mgritter [6c] oogee: checks mgritter: bets $5 oogee: calls $5 oogee: discards 1 card mgritter: stands pat oogee: checks mgritter: bets $10 oogee: calls $10 oogee: discards 1 card mgritter: stands pat oogee: checks mgritter: bets $10 oogee: folds mgritter collected $50 from pot mgritter: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $52 | Rake $2 Seat 1: oogee (big blind) folded after the 3rd Draw Seat 2: dangdokodang folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 3: mgritter collected ($50) Seat 4: Raven052 folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 5: CrimeThInc (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 6: WilyTilt (small blind) folded before the Draw Unfortunately going pat on the 2nd draw whether I made it or not appears to be the only way I can win tonight. My 3rd draws have been absolute crap, the best so far has been a J (which lost to #5 of course.) |
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Re: Post UR Snow
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Berserk makes horrible spew snow after horrible spew button steal against Fossilman because hey, its fossilman: Dealt to XXX [2d 3c Ad Kh 2h] Raven052: folds PimpingU2: folds XXX: raises $5 to $10 FossilMan: calls $8 cachews: folds FossilMan: discards 2 cards XXX: discards 1 card [Ad] Dealt to XXX[6c] FossilMan: checks XXX: bets $5 FossilMan: calls $5 FossilMan: discards 2 cards XXX: stands pat FossilMan: checks XXX: bets $10 FossilMan: folds XXX collected $34 from pot XXX: doesn't show hand [/ QUOTE ] Fossilman is pretty used to people making moves on him just because its him so I think he probably would look you up light here. In general I think value betting him and rarely to never bluffing is probably right. He is probably the best player I've played with in the games so far (I've played live 100/200 TDL with him as well so I may be a bit biased by larger sample size than I have on most stars regulars) though. -DeathDonkey |
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Re: Post UR Snow
An extremely weird one. I've been card-dead at this table so don't have my usual semilag image and have been getting too much respect. So seeing insane weakness I decided to wield it.
PokerStars Game #7238819786: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/11/30 - 12:23:11 (ET) Table 'Hyperborea II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: someclown ($465 in chips) Seat 2: Hamsterstyle ($349 in chips) Seat 3: Zipnalong ($147 in chips) Seat 4: HollyBeth ($248 in chips) Seat 5: hoodiewho ($77 in chips) Seat 6: timprov_mn ($483 in chips) hoodiewho: posts small blind $2 timprov_mn: posts big blind $5 *** DEALING HANDS *** Dealt to timprov_mn [7c Td 5s 4h 3h] someclown: folds Hamsterstyle: folds Zipnalong: folds HollyBeth: raises $5 to $10 hoodiewho: folds timprov_mn: raises $5 to $15 Zipnalong said, "so the PLO game in tunica is unplayable?" HollyBeth: calls $5 timprov_mn: discards 1 card [Td] Dealt to timprov_mn [Jc] HollyBeth: stands pat timprov_mn: checks someclown said, "that guy that left dosent know how lucky he is that we didnt pay" HollyBeth: bets $5 timprov_mn: calls $5 timprov_mn: discards 1 card [Jc] Dealt to timprov_mn [4c] HollyBeth: stands pat timprov_mn: checks HollyBeth: bets $10 timprov_mn: raises $10 to $20 HollyBeth: folds someclown said, "no it isnt" timprov_mn collected $60 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $62 | Rake $2 Seat 1: someclown folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 2: Hamsterstyle folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 3: Zipnalong folded before the Draw (didn't bet) Seat 4: HollyBeth (button) folded after the 2nd Draw Seat 5: hoodiewho (small blind) folded before the Draw Seat 6: timprov_mn (big blind) collected ($60) |
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