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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
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  #2621  
Old 11-24-2007, 04:33 PM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Paster and Devin - don't I have extremely good implied odds to call with a pair vs a nit raise with another player behind who is highly likely to call the initial re-raise as well?

I mean, if I flop a set, there's a great chance I can stack the nit. Also with the loose guy behind me, that gives me way better implied odds. And I'm getting 2.4-1 immediate odds on the call. I don't anticipate the shove from the loose guy almost ever.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villain is 18/14/4.45 in 779 hands (mostly from data mining), but my image is very LAG at this table. This guy has noticed how I'm playing and has 3 bet me quite a few times when I couldn't call.

I have never taken this line before, but thought it might be good in this situation. How's it look?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $172.95
SB: $113.20
BB: $215.35
UTG: $46.15
Hero (CO): $95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $10.50

Flop: ($29.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $81 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Paster and Devin - don't I have extremely good implied odds to call with a pair vs a nit raise with another player behind who is highly likely to call the initial re-raise as well?

I mean, if I flop a set, there's a great chance I can stack the nit. Also with the loose guy behind me, that gives me way better implied odds. And I'm getting 2.4-1 immediate odds on the call. I don't anticipate the shove from the loose guy almost ever.

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Not extremely good odds. For one, ur only 100bbs deep. Second, it is a good spot for even a nit to squeeze. However, it's not a good enough spot to assume he is squeezing. So again, I probably just fold. Another 25-50bbs deep and I probably call.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Villain is 18/14/4.45 in 779 hands (mostly from data mining), but my image is very LAG at this table. This guy has noticed how I'm playing and has 3 bet me quite a few times when I couldn't call.

I have never taken this line before, but thought it might be good in this situation. How's it look?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $172.95
SB: $113.20
BB: $215.35
UTG: $46.15
Hero (CO): $95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $10.50

Flop: ($29.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $22</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $81 and is All-In</font>

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I typcially 4-bet my entire range oop, but this is fine.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:35 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

The one calling my flop bet is TAG. The one limping PF is loose. How should I approach these flops?

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NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#735716981

Firetribe ($107)
luckboxon ($195.50)
Dragondefeu ($69.99)
AnxiousSheep ($20)
dvergson ($235.77)

Firetribe posts (SB) $0.50
luckboxon posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Kh Kc
fold, call, fold,
Firetribe raises to $5
call, call,

FLOP ($15) 3c Ah Qs
Firetribe bets $10
luckboxon calls $10
Dragondefeu folds

TURN ($35) 3c Ah Qs 3s
check,
luckboxon bets $22
Firetribe folds
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

AM I leaking here? Villain is TAG, 3bets a lot from the blinds.

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NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#735722272

BigSlik33 ($159.10)
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk ($100)
Oppilompadi ($123.40)
hakky ($23.97)
LSJonkz ($100)
Firetribe ($101.20)

BigSlik33 posts (SB) $0.50
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Ac Jc
fold, fold, fold,
Firetribe raises to $3.50
fold,
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk raises to $13
call,

FLOP ($26.50) Qc 5s 7c
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk bets $19
Firetribe raises all in
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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The one calling my flop bet is TAG. The one limping PF is loose. How should I approach these flops?

http://www.holdemranger.com/realtime.html
NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#735716981

Firetribe ($107)
luckboxon ($195.50)
Dragondefeu ($69.99)
AnxiousSheep ($20)
dvergson ($235.77)

Firetribe posts (SB) $0.50
luckboxon posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Kh Kc
fold, call, fold,
Firetribe raises to $5
call, call,

FLOP ($15) 3c Ah Qs
Firetribe bets $10
luckboxon calls $10
Dragondefeu folds

TURN ($35) 3c Ah Qs 3s
check,
luckboxon bets $22
Firetribe folds

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I'd probably check the flop and see what happens. As played I c/f the turn.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:04 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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AM I leaking here? Villain is TAG, 3bets a lot from the blinds.

http://www.holdemranger.com/realtime.html
NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#735722272

BigSlik33 ($159.10)
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk ($100)
Oppilompadi ($123.40)
hakky ($23.97)
LSJonkz ($100)
Firetribe ($101.20)

BigSlik33 posts (SB) $0.50
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Ac Jc
fold, fold, fold,
Firetribe raises to $3.50
fold,
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk raises to $13
call,

FLOP ($26.50) Qc 5s 7c
YoUaReMyRaKeBaCk bets $19
Firetribe raises all in

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Seems fine as long as villain is not a nit when it comes to 3-betting.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:09 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The one calling my flop bet is TAG. The one limping PF is loose. How should I approach these flops?

http://www.holdemranger.com/realtime.html
NL Holdem $1(BB) I-Poker Game#735716981

Firetribe ($107)
luckboxon ($195.50)
Dragondefeu ($69.99)
AnxiousSheep ($20)
dvergson ($235.77)

Firetribe posts (SB) $0.50
luckboxon posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe Kh Kc
fold, call, fold,
Firetribe raises to $5
call, call,

FLOP ($15) 3c Ah Qs
Firetribe bets $10
luckboxon calls $10
Dragondefeu folds

TURN ($35) 3c Ah Qs 3s
check,
luckboxon bets $22
Firetribe folds

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I'd probably check the flop and see what happens. As played I c/f the turn.

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lets say that after my flop check th TAGs bets 2/3 pot and the fish folds. Me?
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:13 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I'd call and c/f the turn. He could be make the raise because of position and he will most likely give up or slow down on the turn.
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